From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Welle Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: bbdbv3 with rmail Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 11:05:42 +0100 Organization: MB-NET.NET for Open-News-Network e.V. Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1544782418 20245 195.159.176.226 (14 Dec 2018 10:13:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 10:13:38 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.90 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 14 11:13:34 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gXkTN-00058s-Pe for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2018 11:13:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60678 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gXkVU-0005Ks-64 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2018 05:15:44 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!.POSTED.x59cc9ad1.dyn.telefonica.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Injection-Info: gwaiyur.mb-net.net; posting-host="x59cc9ad1.dyn.telefonica.de:89.204.154.209"; logging-data="4364"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@open-news-network.org" Cancel-Lock: sha1:X6S1Pi51TIxsFXEO8juzuWVDkgY= X-No-Archive: Yes X-User-ID: U2FsdGVkX1+X3r+PHBz52bG/TeqW0LMe3Kgsi5ZUnPOg2bpKQIwflQ== Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:224864 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" X-Gmane-Expiry: 2018-12-28 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:118993 Archived-At: Hello, Stefan Monnier writes: >>> BBDB seems a good candidate but dunno if v3 is ok (there is really >>> poor litterature with it) >> BBDB 3 is a bit arcane and does take time to learn and to get set up >> for the way you like to work. > > Do you happen to have concrete examples at hand of "arcanity" and other > difficulty you encountered (or which you think someone else would > encounter)? I wouldn't use the term arcane, but I think part of the issue -if it is an issue- is that a lot of (most?) documentation/howtos/tutorials/stuff out there is for bbdbv2 and that naturally doesn't work anymore with bbdbv3. As a result, you may need more time to configure stuff to your liking and you probably need more knowledge about how things work. And that is putting off a lot of people, I think. Well, my personal pet peeve is the design of bbdbv3. As with its predecessor, support for specific applications is (deeply) build into bbdb. I think it would be better to provide a nice general interface and let the application camps (wanderlust, Org, foo, etc.) implement their use cases. Regards hmw