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From: Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: help in same window + colorful help + Blümchen
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:04:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mnp8ei$vp8$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.6682.1436547616.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Ian Zimmerman <itz@buug.org> writes:

> On 2015-07-10 18:08 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>
>> > 500 Java programmers? Lisp programmers? Bus drivers?
>> 
>> If you ask me, girls in their middle-late 20s.
>> They have the best taste with colors. Before that,
>> they wear too much black. Black does not trigger any
>> positive emotional responses. 
>
> Wrong here :-)
>
>> However, in computing a black background is good as then less light
>> enters the eyes of the computer user, while the other colors contrast
>> well, so those are the ones that should carry information.
>
> Wrong here too.  Too much contrast is tiring on the eyes.  I have both
> Emacs and terminal emulators use a dark gray foreground on very light
> gray (almost white) background.

Only proving that everyone has different tastes.

I need and want the contrast, after all, the goal is to be able to see
things,

I've never understood backgrounds other than white and black.
Anything else creates a whole bunch of colors that don't stand out.

Getting back to the Emacs defaults, I think Emacs has it mostly right.
I see a white background as the default.
I despise white backgrounds, but I accept that white is what
most people expect.  Once you use white, it only makes sense to
set the default foreground to black.  Again, that's what Emacs does
and it has it right.

Looking deeper, I see the following issues:

A number of faces are not distinct from each other,
font-lock-preprocessor-face is black because it's not set.
Firebrick and Brown look pretty much the same.
The warning face and the error face are the same.
I can't tell VioletRed4 from sienna.
font-lock-doc-face isn't unique.
There should be more dark green, I see mostly blues and reds.
More things should be bold.  The normal fonts just look to
indistinct for me.

The help buffers have some colors.
I don't see the problem.  Links are underlined and colored.

I've heavily customized my colors, but for a while I didn't
have my .emacs available.  The theme manoj-dark was fine.


-- 
Dan Espen


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-10 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-07 22:47 help in same window + colorful help + Blümchen Emanuel Berg
2015-07-07 23:46 ` Ian Zimmerman
2015-07-08  7:03   ` tomas
2015-07-08 10:41     ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-08 11:13       ` tomas
2015-07-08 11:28         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-08 12:13           ` tomas
2015-07-08 23:04             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-08 12:28         ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-07-08 12:56           ` tomas
2015-07-08 22:48             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-09  6:27               ` tomas
2015-07-09 22:17                 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-10  3:55                   ` tomas
2015-07-10 16:08                     ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-10 17:00                       ` Ian Zimmerman
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.6682.1436547616.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-07-10 20:04                         ` Dan Espen [this message]
2015-07-11 19:01                           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-08 17:17           ` Drew Adams
2015-07-08 22:56             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-08 22:43           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]         ` <mailman.6546.1436358510.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-07-08 13:31           ` Dan Espen
2015-07-08 17:04             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <mailman.6563.1436375087.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-07-08 17:20               ` Dan Espen
2015-07-08 14:34           ` Raffaele Ricciardi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-08  7:09 martin rudalics
2015-07-08  9:55 ` Emanuel Berg

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