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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326821 Archived-At: On Fri, Dec 20 2024, Richard Stallman wrote: > > Introduce :invisible face attribute which makes foreground to be the > > same as background rendering the text invisible; or when :invert-video > > is also in effect, background is the same as foreground. > > Why is this feature worth having> What is useful about it? > > > Use it in Org mode for org-hide face eliminting the need for > > org-find-invisible-foreground function. > > Ia that the sole benefit of this feature? > I don't think it is sufficent reason to add the feature > and write the changes to document it. Yes, the use-cases I=E2=80=99m aware of are around org-hide. 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