From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vaidheeswaran C Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Date: Sat, 09 May 2015 14:48:55 +0530 Message-ID: References: <87fv77barj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zj5fgpd8.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83h9rnp0yy.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431163121 11595 80.91.229.3 (9 May 2015 09:18:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 09:18:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 11:18:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yr0tz-0003xU-FP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 May 2015 11:18:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58730 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yr0ty-0008Tz-Ic for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 May 2015 05:18:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48413) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yr0tm-0008Tu-FW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2015 05:18:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yr0tj-0006jS-9s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2015 05:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36639) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yr0tj-0006i8-2X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2015 05:18:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yr0th-0003pb-QF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2015 11:18:13 +0200 Original-Received: from 106.216.157.78 ([106.216.157.78]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 May 2015 11:18:13 +0200 Original-Received: from vaidheeswaran.chinnaraju by 106.216.157.78 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 May 2015 11:18:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 106.216.157.78 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104318 Archived-At: On Saturday 09 May 2015 03:36 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I think it's good and important to talk about the different ways to > navigate (e.g. I'm particularly fond of sexp-navigation), but when > I present Emacs to my students, I never bother with the cursor-motion > part. E.g. I talk instead about windows and buffers (e.g. the fact that > you can display a buffer in more that one window at the same time), > especially about C-x 1 to get rid of the pesky windows which may popup > along the way. > > I also talk about indentation (since either they can't imagine that the > editor might do it for them, or on the contrary they're disappointed > that it doesn't happen 100% automatically, or because they're confusing > the TAB key, the insertion of TAB characters, and the notion of > indenting text to a "tabulation point", which they seem to sometimes > take from WYSIWYG word processors). Thanks for this note. This is EXACTLY the kind of input that I hoped this thread would generate. If the tutorial is just a handout and the manual is a Handbook, the "Emacs Book" will be a handy-book, full of tips and tricks and lot less intimadting. There is a Quick Tour (http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/tour/) but in my assessment it is a bit advanced.