From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Speeding up Emacs load time Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:50:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87vc4zpm3n.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372356033 17394 80.91.229.3 (27 Jun 2013 18:00:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:00:33 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 27 20:00:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UsGUh-0004L2-De for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:00:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43812 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsGUh-0000WO-3S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59421) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsGUO-0000PF-2g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:00:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsGUK-0006in-8n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:48521) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsGUK-0006iM-12 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UsGUF-0003tA-Ts for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:00:04 +0200 Original-Received: from 169.15.137.27 ([169.15.137.27]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:00:03 +0200 Original-Received: from david by 169.15.137.27 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:00:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 169.15.137.27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.1299999999999999 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nh3cKcDT4MHg/TZKALsvDMZYGmU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:91791 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Andrew Pennebaker writes: > >> I love Emacs's customizability! I regularly edit my .emacs file, >> and the community has been helpful and encouraging. But I do >> notice that Emacs can take several (10) seconds or longer to load. > > I did so much fancy things once in .emacs I noticed it took some > seconds to load Emacs. But, I configured one of my many ttys to > automatically start Emacs when I start my computer, so starting > Emacs is really part of my boot time - and then, as everyone else > has told you, use different buffers and modes for everything, > within a single instance of Emacs, and shut Emacs down, not as a > program (although in practice, possible so) but as the final step > of your productive cycle, when you shut down you system. > > But, to give you something concrete, I have a lot of files like > .emacs-message etc. which I load from Emacs - check out the URL > below, and search for "Emacs" and "conf" - and I did that to get a > modular, overviewable design so I never had to "look" for anything > - just open the correct file, and make a search - not for > searching, but for *navigating* - and I noticed that this solution > was a bit slower than doing everything in one file (as for > startup) - so I put it back to one file - only to very quickly > realizing that that extra few seconds once in a while was totally > worth it, compared to having to browse one monster file that > included everything I ever did in Emacs. > > Remember, time is not a quantity that is straightforward to > measure. It is like beer - it is not how much you drink, it is > how you feel when you drink it, and how you feel the couple of > days after that. Wait the extra second now, and don't be stressed > tomorrow. Right. Wouldn't really bother me if it took 5 minutes to start, since I normally only start it once a day, at the most....