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From: Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Obscure error/warning/information message from git pull
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:58:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m4g1bo$ptp$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83lhn89zxn.fsf@gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:59:51 +0300
>> 
>> My point is that once you send "branch" to a Git command
>
> You don't send a branch to Git commands, you send the branch's
> _label_, or _name_. Let's distinguish between the thing and its name,
> okay?

Yes, you send a _name_. It does not represent "branch" the "active line
of development" though. It just points to particular commit.

>
>> Git itself has no "branches" that are "active lines of development"
>> in its data model.
>
> Git might not have it, but we its users do.

You are welcome to have them. In your mind. This won't help you to
understand Git better. It's the latter that I've tried to help to
achieve. Sorry if I failed.

>
>> Understanding this makes it clear why you need to say something like this:
>> 
>> $ git log --source emacs-24 origin/master
>>
>> to get "list of commits with branch names", where:
>
> What's to understand?

Why it is not:

$ git log --show-branch-names emacs-24 origin/master

> a branch name in this context represents its last commit, a.k.a.
> "tip".That's all. Why are you trying to make this more confusing than
> it should be?

My point is that branch name doesn't represent anything else but
particular reference to particular commit in Git.

>>        --source
>>            Print out the ref name given on the command line by which each
>>            commit was reached.
>> 
>> Please notice no "branch" in the description of the "--source"
>
> I'd suggest not to treat Git docs as a kind of "holy scripture" whose
> exact wording has any magic meaning beyond what meets the eye. Don't
> look for some deep meaning in the words used there, because more often
> than not there isn't any.

The description in the docs is very exact. Sorry you don't see it, that
means I'm not very good at explaining it indeed.

BTW, Emacs docs are no less a "holy scripture" as well, until you start
to at least remotely understand the whole picture.

>
>> Kinda like "everything is a buffer" in Emacs.
>
> But everything is not a buffer in Emacs.  There are other objects as
> well, most of them quite different from buffers.

Sure, there are other objects but refs in Git as well, but all the refs
are as similar as possible, be them branches or not.

-- 
Sergey.




  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-18 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-14 12:06 Obscure error/warning/information message from git pull Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-14 13:10 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-14 13:44   ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 14:14   ` Andrew Burgess
2014-11-14 18:05     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-14 18:58       ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 20:09         ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-14 20:41           ` Christoph
2014-11-14 20:52           ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 22:04             ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-15  7:28               ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-15 19:40           ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-15 21:45             ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-15 22:02               ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-16  9:10               ` David Kastrup
2014-11-20  2:56             ` Rob Browning
2014-11-14 20:50       ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-14 20:57       ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-14 21:27         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 23:56           ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2014-11-15  7:36             ` David Kastrup
2014-11-14 23:02         ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-14 23:17           ` David Engster
2014-11-15  7:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15  8:18               ` David Engster
2014-11-15  8:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 23:40           ` David Caldwell
2014-11-15  7:40           ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15  8:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15  9:12               ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15  9:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15 10:28                   ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 11:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15 14:30                       ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 17:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15 18:17                           ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 12:05                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-15 14:35                       ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 15:57                         ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2014-11-15 16:56                           ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 19:57                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-15 20:48                           ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-16  9:33                             ` David Kastrup
2014-11-16  9:23                           ` David Kastrup
2014-11-16 15:28                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-16 15:47                               ` David Kastrup
2014-11-16 13:25           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-16 15:26             ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-16 15:35             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-16 16:16               ` David Kastrup
2014-11-16 16:44                 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-16 17:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-16 20:24               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-17 11:54           ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-17 14:11             ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-18 16:59               ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-18 17:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 17:58                   ` Sergey Organov [this message]
2014-11-18 18:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 18:40                       ` David Kastrup
2014-11-18 18:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 20:57                       ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-18 22:43                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-19  0:48                           ` Barry Warsaw
2014-11-19  9:50                             ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19  1:12                           ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-19 16:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 16:39                               ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-19 16:49                               ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-19  4:48                           ` Teemu Likonen
2014-11-19  6:57                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 13:55                               ` Teemu Likonen
2014-11-19  8:22                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-19 12:14                           ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-19 13:55                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-19 15:00                               ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19 15:15                               ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-19 15:24                               ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-19 15:36                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19 16:00                                 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-19 16:42                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-20  0:57                               ` Alexis
2014-11-20 15:52                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 16:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 16:36                               ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-19 18:40                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 18:48                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 20:05                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19 20:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-20  3:01                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-20 15:53                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 18:29                               ` Teemu Likonen
2014-11-18 23:07                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-18 23:35                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-19  1:31                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19  3:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 21:59                       ` John Yates
2014-11-19  3:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 10:08                           ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19 16:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 22:59                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 16:16                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 16:48                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 18:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 21:04       ` David Kastrup
2014-11-14 13:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 13:59   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-14 14:08   ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-14 15:51     ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 15:53       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-14 20:41         ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-14 20:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 16:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 14:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 15:50     ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 16:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 17:03     ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2014-11-14 17:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 17:30         ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 20:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 21:12             ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 21:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 21:18         ` David Kastrup
2014-11-14 21:35           ` Eli Zaretskii

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