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From: Peter Boettcher <boettcher@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Printing from WindowXP version of emacs
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:45:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3zmmvn7yr.fsf@coyote.llan.ll.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.19861.1135028638.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes (in a discussion with Ilya):

>> There is no "encoding supported by the printer".  You may assume that
>> the printer supports only its only "command set".
>
> I will assume what happens in reality, not some silly rules of game
> that you just invented.  In reality, the printer expects the text sent
> to it to come in some encoding.
>
>> > > Are you assuming that sending character "a" to the printer pipe will
>> > > print "a" on paper?
>> 
>> > On MS-Windows, it does.
>> 
>> I know very little about Win*, but AFAICS, this thread is about the
>> fact that it does not.

There are many printers out there now which do not support PostScript,
do not support PCL, and do not, in fact, even support plain text.
They are often called "winprinters" because the windows drivers
perform all the processing on the host CPU, and send simple rasterized
data to the printer.  The printer itself will not even print "a" when
told to.

On Linux, these printers are accessed via the normal lpr print spools,
but they have filters set up to rasterize the input PS or raw text
before outputing.

The question on windows is: how does one access the driver which (in
some cases) must rasterize the input, rather than going directly to
the device.  Copying plain text to the network name of the printer
seems not to do the right thing universally, which is why I use the
ugly notepad-hack when I need to do this sort of thing.


-Peter

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-20 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-15 15:31 Printing from WindowXP version of emacs sbrown
2005-12-15 18:30 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-15 18:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16  7:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16  8:29     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16  8:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 14:53         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16 15:31           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17  2:42             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17  8:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17  9:38                 ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-17 11:11                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 15:50                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 16:31                       ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-17 21:25                         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 23:55                           ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-21 18:15                             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 21:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 22:50                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 23:41                                   ` Edward O'Connor
2005-12-21 23:51                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17  9:51                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-17 13:11                   ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]               ` <mailman.19684.1134911288.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-18 18:22                 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-18 19:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.19772.1134933877.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-19 17:53                     ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-19 21:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.19861.1135028638.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-20  1:11                         ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-20  4:54                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.19893.1135054520.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-20 22:40                             ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-21  4:42                               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.20004.1135140203.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-22 23:11                                 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-23  8:41                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.20241.1135327583.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-30  0:38                                     ` Ilya Zakharevich
2005-12-30 11:44                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.20871.1135945105.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-05  6:53                                         ` Ilya Zakharevich
2006-01-05 16:39                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                           ` <mailman.21485.1136479302.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07 12:02                                             ` Ilya Zakharevich
2006-01-07 12:55                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-20 14:45                         ` Peter Boettcher [this message]
2005-12-20 20:21                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-20 22:22                             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21  4:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21  7:49                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 18:39                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 19:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 20:11                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-21 22:15                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-21 22:48                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-22  4:38                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-22  8:02                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-22 19:37                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-22 20:46                                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-23  8:21                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-23 14:06                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-23 15:20                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-24 13:49                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-24 14:39                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-24 14:58                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16  9:26       ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-16 10:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16  9:19     ` Peter Dyballa
2005-12-16 10:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 14:19       ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]   ` <mailman.19545.1134911104.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-19  9:58     ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-19 21:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <mailman.19857.1135027571.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-20  7:41         ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-20 19:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-20 20:59             ` Drew Adams
2005-12-15 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-15 19:36 Jay Bingham
2005-12-19 11:18 LENNART BORGMAN
2005-12-19 21:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-19 22:11   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-19 23:05     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-19 23:30       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-20  4:30         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <mailman.19804.1134991437.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-19 16:28 ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-20 10:58 LENNART BORGMAN
     [not found] <mailman.19907.1135077565.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-20 17:15 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-01-03  0:49 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-03  5:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-03  9:44 ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found] ` <mailman.21202.1136265134.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-03 13:06   ` Chris McMahan
2006-01-03 19:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-03 21:52       ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]       ` <mailman.21297.1136325265.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-03 22:08         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-03 22:12           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-03 13:08 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-03 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-04  0:34 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-04 10:00 ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-05  1:56   ` BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-05 13:01     ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-05 15:41       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 21:17         ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-06  8:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-05 20:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-05 21:18         ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-06  8:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-06 11:59             ` Peter Dyballa
2006-01-06 14:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-04  5:10 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-04  8:45 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-04 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-04 19:14   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05  1:17 ` BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-05  9:24 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-05 16:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-05 21:01   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-06  9:09     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-07  5:00 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-07  9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-08  1:06 BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-08  4:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-09  8:29 LENNART BORGMAN
2006-01-09 11:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-10  3:13   ` BRUCE INGALLS
2006-01-10 10:19 LENNART BORGMAN

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