From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: fullcreen = fullboth yields undesirable behavior Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:42:03 -0600 Message-ID: References: <46F51867.4080101@swipnet.se> <46F76123.6060502@swipnet.se> Reply-To: tromey@redhat.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190646416 12679 80.91.229.12 (24 Sep 2007 15:06:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 17:06:51 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZpW9-0000Q7-4O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:06:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZpW6-0000Lp-9z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:06:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZpW1-0000Jr-1R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:06:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZpW0-0000JA-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:06:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZpW0-0000It-49 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:06:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZpVz-0006SG-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:06:27 -0400 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZpVL-0005RK-05 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:05:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZpUt-00069H-Cp for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:05:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZpUt-00068x-4H for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:05:19 -0400 Original-Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l8OF5Iov027636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: from pobox.corp.redhat.com (pobox.corp.redhat.com [10.11.255.20]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l8OF5Ie9002828; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: from opsy.redhat.com (ton.toronto.redhat.com [172.16.14.15]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l8OF5GLK017691; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:05:17 -0400 Original-Received: by opsy.redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id B87F0508015; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:42:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: <46F76123.6060502@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Mon\, 24 Sep 2007 09\:02\:59 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79693 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:19993 Archived-At: >>>>> "Jan" =3D=3D Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: >> Or, at the very least, a missing Emacs feature. I did manage to think >> of a reason that the current behavior might be desirable: if I was >> using a presentation tool in Emacs (EPT), I might want this behavior. >> However, that is a specialized use; more frequently I would want plain >> Gtk-style "maximize". Jan> As I recall, this was the initial motivation for fullscreen in Jan> the first place. Yeah. FWIW at the present moment I have a use for both approaches. For a presentation I'm writing, I want "really use the whole screen, covering the panel". But for debugging with gdba, I want my wrapper to be able to create a maximized "debug" frame that does not obscure the panel. Thanks for looking at this. Tom