From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 23.0.60; [nxml] BOM and utf-8 Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 17:19:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87od75kt78.fsf@pdrechsler.de> <87mymofip6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878wy8ny36.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <482FEF32.2080300@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211124261 11482 80.91.229.12 (18 May 2008 15:24:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 15:24:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 18 17:24:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jxkkr-0005z2-HD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 May 2008 17:24:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58585 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jxkk7-00016p-LV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 May 2008 11:24:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jxkk3-000155-Hx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 May 2008 11:24:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jxkk1-00014D-4u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 May 2008 11:24:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58267 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jxkk1-00014A-0n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 May 2008 11:24:05 -0400 Original-Received: from iwfs.imcode.com ([82.115.149.64]:55627 helo=gate.verona.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jxkk0-0004SD-O4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 May 2008 11:24:05 -0400 Original-Received: from chopper (IDENT:1005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gate.verona.se (8.13.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id m4IFNwnY027240 for ; Sun, 18 May 2008 17:23:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <482FEF32.2080300@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Sun, 18 May 2008 09:56:18 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97363 Archived-At: Jason Rumney writes: > What Miles is talking about is certain Microsoft software (including > their XML library), which when saving to UTF-8 writes a UTF-8 encoded > 0xFEFF at the start of the file. Its probably caused by first encoding > in UTF-16 then transcoding to UTF-8. > Anyway, having Emacs handling BOM in a usefull manner, might help convince a couple of non-Emacs users at my workplace of Emacs superiority. -- Joakim Verona