From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: visualization of CVS commits Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:50:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20080624.080153.252133130.wl@gnu.org> <87vdzyfx7s.fsf@gmail.com> <858wwtle30.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85myl9jtzm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214427120 11101 80.91.229.12 (25 Jun 2008 20:52:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Geoffrey Teale To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 25 22:52:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KBbyt-0001bG-TT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:52:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54682 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBby4-00073s-8K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:51:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBbxz-00073g-85 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:51:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KBbxy-00073O-J2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:51:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32963 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KBbxy-00073D-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:51:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]:1787) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KBbxt-0006gs-Iu; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:51:42 -0400 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id BC12A402AB; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:51:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1214427098; bh=T7zim9MVB+6EKtwx4IELnan6rj6XjtF0YD2oZktW7 +Q=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Se/zUwb0GO6MykNpq4zfBD/wY7kp7dPDzQIDg E3Qb1IaQ1xxWpu7HYjM7aunNBYKkj3ZzKh7bKFFAIIlgQmX7341RTNAFhJSmIysODAs 0kAztieGIeojWxtBr6JYx8X3jaQsUP8+iTpXZFqzOD3MR9gliugHA1MSWJyVD186Uhc = Original-Received: by lugabout.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1A876210676; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:51:15 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <85myl9jtzm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:37:49 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2008 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 24 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99945 Archived-At: >>>>> "David" == David Kastrup writes: David> One problem that I see with Ogg Theora that it is intended, as David> far as I know, for real-life movies. Just like JPEGS are rather David> unsuitable for screen shots when compared to well-made PNGs.... The Beeb's Dirac might handle cartoon-style animation better than Theora, also uses the Ogg container format and is Free. Their implementation, schroedinger, is also Free Software. I believe Xiph has chosen to promote Dirac rather than continuing work on the wavelet codec they were planning on writing (Tarkin?). Xiph also has a spec for MNG in an Ogg container, which primarily is useful for combining audio -- such as Vorbis -- with the MNG. That would certainly give sharp output for cartoonish bitmaps. I'm not aware of a good choice yet for moving vector art, though. Synfig's format might qualify, but don't believe there is a player for it other than the editor itself. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6