From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:13:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87sjcayo2g.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <44228733-B2A1-4C55-B3E4-D634A149AFB4@mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344068041 30568 80.91.229.3 (4 Aug 2012 08:14:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 08:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: yandros@mit.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 04 10:14:01 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SxZUm-0006E0-Tr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:14:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35167 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxZUl-0007v5-DE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:13:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46730) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxZUi-0007up-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:13:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxZUi-0006pz-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:13:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.bahnhof.se ([213.80.101.11]:61704) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxZUh-0006po-Ua; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:13:56 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (mf.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.20]) by mx1-reinject (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F062955F7; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:13:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at bahnhof.se (MF4) Original-Received: from mf4.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf4.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DKHf6P1Wa6K2; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:13:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from exodia.verona.se (h-235-102.a149.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.235.102]) by mf4.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF6DE43478; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:13:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from chopper.vpn.verona.se (DIR-655.verona.se [192.168.200.86]) by exodia.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753B94E00A7; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:13:42 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 04 Aug 2012 01:43:59 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-Received-From: 213.80.101.11 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152165 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > I'm not sure why you say that there are no free systems available for > > phones. In my particular case I use the GTA04 which has mostly open > > hardware. > > > > It comes fairly close, but it has peripherals (more than one) that > > require nonfree "blobs". > > You don't need to use those peripherals. I find the device quite > functional without them. > > I see how you could use it without Wifi and bluetooth, but > does the video work at all without the powervr? Yes it works quite well without the PowerVR driver. You dont get graphics acceleration, but that doesn't really matter for many applications. > In the case of the GTA04 the modem is a completely separate system that > communicates with the main processor with a serial USB connection. There > is no memory sharing. > > That is good enough, then. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St > Boston MA 02110 > USA > www.fsf.org www.gnu.org > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call -- Joakim Verona