From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87sjcayo2g.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343637082 28714 80.91.229.3 (30 Jul 2012 08:31:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Michael Reilly , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 30 10:31:22 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SvlNp-0002jP-T6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:31:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48023 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvlNo-0006sD-K5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:31:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvlNk-0006s2-Fl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvlNg-00078T-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:31:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.bahnhof.se ([213.80.101.11]:65194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvlNg-000774-2H; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:31:12 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (mf.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.20]) by mx1-reinject (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AFD295607; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:31:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at bahnhof.se (MF4) Original-Received: from mf4.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf4.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XhOfwY0b5i1S; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:31:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from exodia.verona.se (h-235-102.a149.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.235.102]) by mf4.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE498E43453; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:31:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from chopper.vpn.verona.se (unknown [192.168.201.10]) by exodia.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512BD4E007C; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87sjcayo2g.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:34:15 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-Received-From: 213.80.101.11 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151976 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > > > It cannot be reconciled with the goals of the free software movement, > > so our mission includes changing [the prospective dependence on > > "the cloud" that everybody predicts or at least fears]. > > Do you have a plan for changing that you've talked about, or are > willing to talk about? Preferably not on this list, though, this OT > subthread is already long enough. And preferably a plan that doesn't > involve jousting with windmills. (If you have a blog post or similar, > no need to rehash it.) FWIW I have a personal project that I discussed on the GTA04 mailing list. (The GTA04 is a continuation of the free phone plattform project, the Openmoko Freerunner) The project is basically about providing an easy method for people to create personal clusters using free software, in its basic form consisting of a personal server, and a portable terminal in phone or tablet or laptop format. In essence the project aims to provide configuration data for a GNU/Linux distribution, so that deploying such a cluster can be an easy matter. The project is described here, including first iteration technical choices for the existing implementation: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/61714/match=personal+cluster > > Steve > > > -- Joakim Verona