From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Barry Fishman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: is undefined Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:36:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <532EC7DB.1080003@dancol.org> <20140323.124443.497781382.wl@gnu.org> <532ECA8F.60903@dancol.org> <20140323.125735.293642042.wl@gnu.org> <532ECF23.3010706@dancol.org> <532EF3C8.3070906@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395603400 21140 80.91.229.3 (23 Mar 2014 19:36:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:36:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 23 20:36:49 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoCO-0006ta-0s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:36:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33175 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoCN-0001c7-LL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:36:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50045) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoCD-0001bw-T3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:36:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoC6-0000UD-JK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45461) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoC6-0000U8-CZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:36:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoC5-0006aM-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:36:29 +0100 Original-Received: from fl-71-52-214-41.dhcp.embarqhsd.net ([71.52.214.41]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:36:29 +0100 Original-Received: from barry_fishman by fl-71-52-214-41.dhcp.embarqhsd.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:36:29 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: fl-71-52-214-41.dhcp.embarqhsd.net Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAALVBMVEXG87t8xXThBQWq85q9 87AvUC6PUVH/BgamyajC87a/87P////r6+ud7oq49KsBy7dJAAACKUlEQVQ4jc3Sv2vbQBQH 8CulwcEdeoOKwM1QD/bSzVktKDEdMpRqeMKQFNqAhEGbh3aVB5sDafAYL106xZMzuAiehnqI EciLMR2viz0Vor+hdydZMa6z97sI9NH7cYdI9ZGQr4/kP4Fu1akehFqHDaoHoOviPLD3oVtz 7PIErFCeeRdqOuvptwDMYSyfpKB7iYh3DOCTeOKzegGvk8hD1O22eD2B9tUWum9wbpXYy6NA wAzMeQFu1AeT2VAW0Af4sYUvfmRbCWLciXq0B2ZYf4C+GL/AGBIcOP4O4MzFKbiTAGOPYg7V mu1j5OIdfIgT7FtHGKoZIHKB6IuK9kDODpNsK0pPVnqCFbyFSyYWMMPnIA9CVsbm5l2HuRjZ FVERBXFPs8QQMhIZvqUX8jJmiTzIRy5FwWhEdAmR4y1KnQbn1KrnMOrLj6PPDnW8bw2+1K7I OINrecF9jwyJyBlfAvkzvlEy6DBHJ3m+8yU5HY9V0TWl+nALx+slMQTkRWKHQprEOJeST3qg p8RoHZRjsmm1ctrrJ0HkX0mFvG+uTnf7qe3SNG2dcc4bm70iAemaHxAJ91zF2G2noMl/UVVk bAoihgINlKwa6XkuhBsKGJgnPBuVEeG/5Wzqz3tZ0bYh4SsBS+qXZtTMRTWUcC/Bnybi7+R5 VoaAdZNz7ZU/RT8u2nEuQTw0VpmjH/7UChHQlFAGT1Rg8GS7Hcm+0F4EDgvYIohLAFS++wvs R0Pau3fdJgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uHr1qMbxmP295ZZmsTQVfWd1Jpk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170883 Archived-At: On 2014-03-23 10:46:32 EDT, Daniel Colascione wrote: > On 03/23/2014 07:33 AM, Barry Fishman wrote: >> Wouldn't it be better to just add Multi_key bindings to Emacs. This >> will also give control of these bindings to the end user (when possible) >> to extend and modify as they wish. > > Emacs is not, despite appearances, an operating system. We shouldn't > reinvent every wheel. Centralizing input method infrastructure is very > useful because it provides consistency across an entire environment. But that environment does not work. If the choice is to figure out how to modify your environment variables before entering Emacs, or have Emacs just work, I choose the latter. Either way it is a gross hack. > If you want a pure-Emacs implementation of the compose concept, you can > load iso-transl and either use C-x 8 or bind Multi_key to > iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map. I use "C-x 8" and "C-\".