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* RE: NT Emacs Latin & cyrillic script
@ 2003-04-11  9:07 Dmitri.Minaev
  2003-04-11 13:46 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
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From: Dmitri.Minaev @ 2003-04-11  9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hello, Benjamin,

To enable cp1251 codepage in Emacs/MULE, add to .emacs the following:

   (codepage-setup 1251)
   (define-coding-system-alias 'windows-1251 'cp1251)
   (set-selection-coding-system 'cp1251)

That should be enough to use cp1251 coding system.

--
With best regards,
Dmitri Minaev


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin Riefenstahl [mailto:Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de]
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:19 PM
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: NT Emacs Latin & cyrillic script
> 
> 
> Hi Ulrich,
> 
> 
> "Ulrich Dirr" <ud@art-satz.de> writes:
> > I've downloaded a precompiled version of 21.2 and installed it.
> > Everything is working well, even auctex (on Win2k).
> > 
> > But I would like to input and display latin and cyrillic scripts
> > simultaneously. I've read a lot of docs but now I'm more 
> confused than
> > before.
> >
> > [...]
> > 
> > Does the language/keyboard support which I've activated in 
> Win2k help?
> > Or is this independent of emacs?
> 
> It helps, but it is independent of Emacs.  Because Emacs doesn't (yet)
> use Unicode input, in addition to tell the OS to *send* cyrillic
> keyboard input, you need to tell Emacs to switch *interpreting*
> keyboard input in cyrillic.
> 
> So first you use set-keyboard-coding-system (C-x RET k) to switch
> Emacs to cyrillic, than you use the languages menu on the taskbar (or
> a Windows keyboard shortcut, if you have assigned one) to switch the
> OS.  You do it the other way around to switch out of cyrillic.
> 
> One problem is that 21.2 doesn't have the appropriate coding system
> for cyrillic on Windows (cp1251) [*] which you need as a parameter for
> set-keyboard-coding-system.  You can get it from Emacs CVS
> (lisp/international/code-pages.el) but last I tried that version with
> Emacs 21.2 it required some support files and tweaking.  Mail me for
> details if you want to pursue this and you can't get it to work.
> 
>   [*] Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.  And no, cp1251
>   doesn't seem to be compatible with iso8859-5.
> 
> An alternative would of course be to get Emacs from CVS and compile it
> yourself, if you can do that.
> 
> > It should be possible to input cyrillic easily with my keyboard. It
> > should display correctly as cyrillic, and it should be possible to
> > TeX it (say T2A encoding). And I want to be able to switch to latin
> > back.
> 
> I don't know about TeX specific issues. 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps, benny
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* RE: NT Emacs Latin & cyrillic script
@ 2003-04-11 11:08 Dmitri.Minaev
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dmitri.Minaev @ 2003-04-11 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hello, Ulrich,

I'd dare to say that the optimal way is to use Emacs/MULE and switch
keyboard layout with MULE, not with the system tools. It lets you type texts
in different character encodings -- 'cyrillic-alternativnyj' (cp866, MS-DOS
Cyrillic), 'cyrillic-koi8' (U*IX Cyrillic) or 'cp1251' (Windows Cyrillic).
To enable cp1251 support, add to .emacs:

   (codepage-setup 1251)
   (define-coding-system-alias 'windows-1251 'cp1251)
   (set-selection-coding-system 'cp1251)

As for the fonts, probably, you could find GNU intlfonts useful (see
http://www.gnu.org/directory/intlfonts.html ). 

In LaTeX, you are supposed to use Babel to enable Cyrillic letters in your
document. Here's a typical preamble of a Russian LaTeX document:

\usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T2A]{fontenc}
\usepackage[english,russian]{babel}

Note that in the first line you can use other encodings, like koi8-r or
cp866 to indicate the encoding you used to type the source file.

--
With best regards,
Dmitri Minaev


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ulrich Dirr [mailto:ud@art-satz.de]
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 6:20 PM
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: NT Emacs Latin & cyrillic script
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm a beginner with emacs ...
> 
> I've downloaded a precompiled version of 21.2 and installed it.
> Everything is working well, even auctex (on Win2k).
> 
> But I would like to input and display latin and cyrillic scripts
> simultaneously. I've read a lot of docs but now I'm more confused than
> before.
> 
> It should be possible to input cyrillic easily with my keyboard. It
> should display correctly as cyrillic, and it should be possible to TeX
> it (say T2A encoding). And I want to be able to switch to latin back.
> 
> Does the language/keyboard support which I've activated in Win2k help?
> Or is this independent of emacs?
> 
> How can I achieve this? Is there a step-by-step guide somewhere?
> 
> Ulrich
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs
> 

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* NT Emacs Latin & cyrillic script
@ 2003-04-10 17:19 Ulrich Dirr
  2003-04-10 20:19 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ulrich Dirr @ 2003-04-10 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi

I'm a beginner with emacs ...

I've downloaded a precompiled version of 21.2 and installed it.
Everything is working well, even auctex (on Win2k).

But I would like to input and display latin and cyrillic scripts
simultaneously. I've read a lot of docs but now I'm more confused than
before.

It should be possible to input cyrillic easily with my keyboard. It
should display correctly as cyrillic, and it should be possible to TeX
it (say T2A encoding). And I want to be able to switch to latin back.

Does the language/keyboard support which I've activated in Win2k help?
Or is this independent of emacs?

How can I achieve this? Is there a step-by-step guide somewhere?

Ulrich

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