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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: juri@jurta.org, occitan@esperanto.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-trunk-diffs] Changes to emacs/lisp/faces.el
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:32:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3u0qp9i20.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1CdwE6-0005R2-Rz@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:51:22 -0500")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     For another you make all parts of the glyph the same, instead of just 
>     the escape, such that they become hard to tell apart.
>
> Yes, I think it makes more sense that way.  In \208, all four of the
> characters are part of a single escape sequence.  I think it is better
> to highlight them all the same way.

I think this looks better too -- but the current escape-glyph face doesn't
stand out very much -- what about "red" foreground instead?

>
> However, if lots of people prefer to highlight just the first
> char, I won't insist.

There seems to be a problem with ^X and \nnn if you have setup a
display table to show the ^ or \ -- in that case, the X and nnn is
still shown in the escape-glyph face (rather than the face from the
display property).

I will fix that.

>
>     And you forgot sticky space and soft hyphen, which now again look 
>     identical to their non-special counterparts.
>
> I don't know what you're talking about, here.  This feature was
> supposed to be for escape sequences, characters not actually in the
> text.

Indeed -- if someone whats to highlight anything else, they should
use a display vector.

>
>      As for ellipses, there 
>     should at least be a simple option.
>
> I agree with the person who didn't want them highlighted.

Actually, I liked the highlight for ellipses.   And to continue your
argument, the ellises are "characters not actually in the text" too.

>
>     Alas they no 
>     longer combine with other faces, such as selection, which is a giant 
>     step backwards.
>
> I do not understand.  What do you mean?

The escape-glyph face is not merged with the underlaying base face of
the character, so eg. region highlight (background color) or other
face properties are not shown on the escape glyphs.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-12-14 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1CZoXW-0007hE-UW@lists.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <E1Ca4Kt-00067g-EH@fencepost.gnu.org>
2004-12-03  9:18   ` [Emacs-trunk-diffs] Changes to emacs/lisp/faces.el Kim F. Storm
2004-12-04  2:48     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-05 17:52       ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-05 18:32         ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-06  1:40         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-07 22:40           ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-07 23:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-08  8:47               ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-08 15:16                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-08 22:15               ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-08 22:15             ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-12  9:19               ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-13  9:03                 ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-13 14:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-13 19:51                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-13 23:41                   ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-14 23:22                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-17  0:54                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-19  9:41                       ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-21 11:21                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-23 20:39                           ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-14 12:32                   ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2004-12-15 10:56                     ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-15 11:21                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-15 12:01                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15 14:58                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-15 16:14                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-15 20:35                         ` Daniel Pfeiffer
2004-12-24  2:28                       ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-24 13:26                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-26 19:42                           ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-27  8:00                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-27 19:53                               ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-27 22:01                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-27 22:56                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-28 17:25                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-28  2:38                                   ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-28  4:47                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-28  7:52                                       ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-28 20:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-29  0:22                                           ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-29  4:45                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-30  7:33                                               ` Juri Linkov
2004-12-30 14:21                                                 ` Alex Schroeder
2004-12-30 16:33                                                   ` Drew Adams
2004-12-30 20:59                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-28  4:57                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-25 15:12                         ` Richard Stallman

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