From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:53:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87d3i0bzg6.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87iprs222s.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309093259 10645 80.91.229.12 (26 Jun 2011 13:00:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 13:00:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 26 15:00:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaoxL-0001wA-2k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:00:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38160 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaoxK-00037C-2x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:00:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47851) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qaoq5-0001Ol-SE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:53:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qaoq3-00007V-U9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:53:25 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42006) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qaoq3-00007M-JG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qaopw-0008QQ-4W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:53:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87iprs222s.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (Reiner Steib's message of "Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:45:47 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEX+/v4DBASxsbLc3NwD AwMBAQEqKixUU1X29vcICAoCAgQAAAL///8BAQJ+fn8CAgJRZwaiAAABXUlEQVQ4jaXQv0vDQBQH 8IJrl9jWGhe1LhbEVZAsB8E1SzOfmyAdWgv1B7oWhCBWpVaFDh1d/AuE0ILccGTTQQgOigqWQCEZ 5VkjNe3l3iC+5Y773Pfe4xIcqcQ/wFlC4NBCYIUvyMFjF5oUthy3J4WKc13KhX2SQoIdbGet4flo D/7hlmRP5aufD5YMnKvbtrQ5P3JTcmCX03Lgm81ob4/CXkoKE2/17KIEWHkGQH2PQ+0GTPNxzYrB yxOFoEB6InTPAsiYQIoiOACuCVD4nXgIdwEd9DDJpJhY9QEoEF3VhEQ5Y1Lf8KFfSY5Bpx7QwAAw fLWlMS2C2n0/ndYJKIqiNqrFCPKzAAGAbqQ3PM8bScz731NRMvUsjFvzB/dpgexwAdjyrqLr+rk1 BnZIudxrY46LiZ9vaXEEThDonGLQxGA9XOwYdPeRBMOge4xBEQHbQmCsQkhigCb+BF9Xn17F3vXd 6AAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Pet Shop Boys's _The Most Incredible Thing (1)_: "The Clock 1-2-3" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110626:emacs-devel@gnu.org::cWhxML0jr7QndjZA:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000sEw X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qaopw-0008QQ-4W MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1309697596.37162@6VcRfj8SPzli8WMR+tiu9w X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140987 Archived-At: Reiner Steib writes: >> How does that work? Typically users are running behind a NAT firewall >> these days, aren't they? So you can use the local IP address to find >> out what ISP you're in. > > (you meant "can't"?) Yeah. :-) > I should have been more precise: After you enter your mail address, > say foobarprovider.tld, it checks for provider.tld in the ISP > database and for the hosts names mentioned above to find a suitable > POP/IMAP and SMTP server. Oh, right. Hm. Isn't that even less useful? :-) My ISP is get.no, but I know nobody that uses that ISP's incoming mail server. So if I query the Mozilla DB for @gnus.org, it probably won't be very helpful. I'm just wondering whether the mapping from mail address to outgoing SMTP address from a database is useful beyond background noise. I'd guess it would work for some people, but my gut feeling is that it would not work for the majority of users. And using a third-party service is a bit iffy. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/