From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sending bug reports without setting up email Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:06:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87twi7jq6z.fsf@gnus.org> <87r3dbhz5x.fsf@gnus.org> <6a51f3f7-b6e5-94e8-3b6d-0dd2efe345ed@cs.ucla.edu> <375d7040-05cb-377c-5df9-d345087291ee@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469027243 23508 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2016 15:07:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 20 17:07:15 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPt5e-0000pz-KY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:07:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35102 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPt5a-0003hU-Js for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37607) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPt51-0003h9-2A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:06:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPt4w-0003B9-9f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:06:33 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42374) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPt4g-00037c-O9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:06:30 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPt4d-00077u-BY; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:06:13 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEX29vs/Sm4TFib9/v4I BgoFAwYDAQTW1uYEAgSYmrOsl6aSAAACMElEQVQ4jXWSsYrjMBCGBS5MSpk9gkuLXJHOoMJcuUJ6 gcUCP4FJadhCuD2Qcbn2FkJve//IdrKbuxsrCsynmX9GGia/Wc0PY0+gKOPyPxAT+icgRCBLLtqy BIKLsWB1GIOMg2zemxADK3h08McXJvEno8uaUAM0iAhuKQnImMnYfDZBYp028Vj+2IAbdzBSuQT2 iDF+A5GXK8sIhJgRiJTKIYLHZdcYdwDxkVPMymQdszqePjdQr+eFYu7gVzgA5yg3jAAyz2QuHT6s ei3DwEb0/nxXy5kxAiNLF5XhqzfwgRRLcI65gQ25IxsYTjGCogTgXywGKRnLV62CY/phipdwO1ck MMOmvu9v1raiHJhL4CMn0N/gn2fb6msSK96qd8mmacb53vvZt0aVBF5eIwpJ5/up62bkqqDv8E4c XSYFCy9McV5cBylPohqSRu83IEQl9DWTq7hcmRAChYq7aXXOCyE4E0+mjeKiQkdPbpgoKv43UFpX NKHx65Wk44aKJtBZO9283ay1mopLAFeRetMb0uYAnSdAfbTGIEIbLbgoF3YkMS0UTNpRBIC5p4Cr tQfgR4RNZ7U1G+A7SCdTrvaVw684f2jolAZNFOoBfKq3pYgdFARQbWeNOZoAQMXUOZ6kS/Im9a43 gBR+BzQnF3G57BEdzQ9+0Ol+VyjppxJ4k/TmBDxd2lbEAfDmt372E91mZ9/gpcXmieaQBs5TRKsE NIxW+1xhg37nQTRFtPoPoeNQ1TmQEnoAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: <375d7040-05cb-377c-5df9-d345087291ee@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:01:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205891 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > Sorry, I've lost track of why you wanted direct access to the list of > name servers. Something about looking up MX records for gnu.org when > half-a-dozen other bits of code don't work? Yes, for sending bug reports without setting up mail... > For something that esoteric maybe it'd be simpler to hard-code the IP > addresses. It's also useful slightly more in general. For instance, the way to upload blog posts to wordpress.com is to make a HTML email with embedded images. Their MTA accepts huge emails, while your local MTA is unlikely to, so sending it directly to their MTA is the way to go. And you could also see somebody who is very security conscious, I mean paranoid, would want to send emails via TLS directly to the recipient's MTA without going through the NSA, I mean intermediaries. So there's three use cases. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no