From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: (symbol-plist nil) => not empty Date: 21 Jun 2004 12:30:39 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087813842 12517 80.91.224.253 (21 Jun 2004 10:30:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 21 12:30:32 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BcM4N-0006Cf-00 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:30:31 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BcM4N-0007QN-00 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:30:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BcM5c-0005Cr-B3 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:31:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BcM5Z-0005CY-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:31:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BcM5X-0005CF-08 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:31:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BcM5W-0005C5-V7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:31:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BcM4B-0002wr-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:30:20 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 25768 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2004 10:30:17 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 10:30:17 -0000 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:25148 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:25148 My emacs had been running for some time, and I did M-x customize-group RET nil RET Then I tried this: M-: (symbol-plist nil) To my surprise, nil had a non-empty plist: (custom-group ((nntp-authinfo-file custom-variable) (ada-tight-gvd-integration custom-variable) (breakpoint-enabled-bitmap-face custom-face) (breakpoint-disabled-bitmap-face custom-face) (nnimap-authinfo-file custom-variable) (nnimap-prune-cache custom-variable) (vc-arch-mode-line-rewrite custom-variable)) event-symbol-element-mask (nil 0) event-symbol-elements (nil) modifier-cache ((0)) custom-loads (ada-xref gdb-ui nnimap nntp vc-arch)) The customize things are variables and faces which are lacking a :group specification. I don't know about the rest... Is this normal?