From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:31:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3sm83ci6f.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1sm83lpx3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan's message of "Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:31:33 -0400")
Stefan <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> I found a simpler solution which works really well, as it provides the
>> fallback directly on mouse-1 itself:
>
>> Measure the time between the mouse-1 down event and the up event, and
>> if it less than 300 ms (configurable), follow the link, else do what
>> mouse-1 normally does.
>
> Sounds like a terrible idea to me. Working with X11-over-DSL means that
> timing is rather unreliable. Same thing with heavy-swapping (as happens
> when a I do `tla star-merge' :-( ).
True, but the worst thing that can happen (if you use a positive
value) is that the click sets the point rather than follows the link
-- so if things are slow, just click again (and hope for the best) or
use mouse-2.
I don't think that's terrible at all.
And you can always set the variable to t, meaning that you will need
to drag to set point.
And on a local system, it works really well!!!
>
> And even if the timing could be measured accurately, I don't find the "hold
> the mouse button longer" to be intuitive at all for "move point".
Press harder to make the glue stick :-)
Personally I find "drag to set point" much less intuitive which is why
I'm looking for a better solution.
> I think we're trying to squeeze too much info in those events. I'm quite
> happy with the distinction between click and drag but I don't think we
> should go further than that.
We are trying to find a simple(!) way to let mouse-1 do its normal thing
in the rare situation (except for David :-) where the user wants to set
point in the middle of a link.
Providing the "long click" as a user option is trivial (it is 3 lines
of code and it is already done), and personally, I find it quite
intuitive.
Whether we want to turn it on by default (with or without timeout) is
another matter.
--
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk
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2004-10-19 9:04 ` finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Kim F. Storm
2004-10-19 15:31 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-19 16:12 ` Drew Adams
2004-10-21 13:56 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 14:47 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-21 16:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-23 4:48 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:42 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-24 12:59 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-24 19:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-24 20:06 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-25 13:13 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 13:10 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-24 19:59 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 9:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26 17:05 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-24 22:31 ` Stefan
2004-10-25 7:22 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-25 11:47 ` Stefan
2004-10-25 12:51 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-25 13:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-25 14:52 ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-25 15:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-25 15:18 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-25 15:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-26 9:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 9:25 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-26 12:23 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 18:55 ` Drew Adams
2004-10-26 21:06 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-26 21:54 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 2:15 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-27 12:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 13:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-27 13:16 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-27 14:51 ` feature freeze (was: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text) Reiner Steib
2004-10-27 15:15 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 15:15 ` feature freeze David Kastrup
2004-10-27 17:29 ` finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Drew Adams
2004-10-28 14:05 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 17:35 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-01 14:40 ` Karl Eichwalder
2004-11-01 15:44 ` Stefan
2004-11-02 14:08 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-02 18:08 ` Karl Eichwalder
2004-11-02 21:51 ` Miles Bader
2004-11-02 23:41 ` Drew Adams
2004-11-02 23:53 ` Stefan
2004-11-03 1:27 ` incrementor-decrementor commands and bindings (was: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text) Drew Adams
2004-11-03 7:51 ` incrementor-decrementor commands and bindings (was: finger-pointercurser " Stephan Stahl
2004-11-03 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2004-11-04 9:51 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-03 1:34 ` finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Miles Bader
2004-11-03 9:31 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-03 9:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-03 10:20 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-03 17:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-03 9:11 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-03 17:03 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 17:34 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 10:49 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 12:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-27 13:18 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-28 2:27 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-27 7:22 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-10-27 7:35 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-27 12:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-28 6:24 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 10:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26 9:05 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 8:31 ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2004-10-25 10:01 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-25 12:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 9:05 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 13:13 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 14:09 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-21 14:42 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-21 15:21 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-21 19:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-21 20:09 ` Drew Adams
2004-10-21 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-21 22:09 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-22 9:10 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-22 12:45 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-22 15:03 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-22 15:56 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-17 19:27 Drew Adams
2004-10-18 11:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-18 13:59 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-07 13:16 ` Per Abrahamsen
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