Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7

[storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     > So is Ctrl-C/V/X really part of CUA at all?
>
>     If you enable CUA mode it is :-)
>
> There is a miscommunication here.  He is not asking about the Emacs
> CUA mode.  He's asking about what was in the spec that the MS Windows
> designers started with.

I did understand that ... it was a joke!

>
> Lennart Borgman wrote:
>
>     I found someone saying that is was added in CUA 2.0. I have a vauge 
>     memory of seeing something like that before too.
>
> If that is true, what was the date of CUA 2.0?  And did MS Windows
> copy those commands from CUA 2.0?

Why does it matter whether it was IBM, Apple or M$ who invented the
C-z C-x C-c C-v shortcuts (and thus broke compatibility with Emacs)?

No matter what we think or feel, or whether history is on our side,
most "modern" applications use these bindings -- including GNOME, KDE
and Firefox, so today it is Emacs which is "incompatible" with "common
practice".

That's a fact, and trying to blame "the designers of CUA" for creating
a consistent (and IMHO excellent) interface is plain silly IMO.

So for users who like the consistency with their other application,
Emacs 22 has CUA mode which provide the functionality without
breaking existing Emacs bindings.

So IMO (but I'm biased of course), there's no reason to have a
negative attitude towards CUA at all -- if people like those bindings,
just use them.  And that's it.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk