From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lost antialias? Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:46:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <485230EB.9070203@alice.it> <48546807.8010406@alice.it> <87abhmgmko.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhkndo9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skv7d6sa.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lk0z1w3e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej6rpqh0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhf1mxe.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <874p7n1jb9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214034471 7770 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2008 07:47:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , angelo.graziosi@alice.it, Stefan Monnier , Kenichi Handa , Miles Bader To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 21 09:48:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K9xpm-0000dV-Qk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:48:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44307 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9xox-0007FK-Ki for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9xol-0007Br-8I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:47:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9xoj-0007Av-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:47:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50566 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9xoj-0007Aq-67 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:47:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:16410) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9xoc-00059U-UG; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:47:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9xoZ-0004jx-9M; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:47:15 -0400 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 9B76540087; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:47:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1214034432; bh=GMwyMOk6Pt6dVt5by8IHSdEYoFmbs61bE9yBZk+gV 5I=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PIoA8VTds/r 5K6TBmOWYLerHxRIHjj2BNMMioCeTonXIpkx4oFNb5CmjvfCZelI0bZPCM2f4XGnZRW 6/HmQuTSrJ+NUFaJvOgGg2bGsqw05q/DoTWMMoGuzPt2ou5rc7zdaeNZAOCnMJJo7FB apXxZYr7ZbgbokmbzU7Ct4Jp0s= Original-Received: by lugabout.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 94DB6210676; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:46:58 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <874p7n1jb9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:52:10 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2008 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 30 X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99590 Archived-At: >>>>> "Miles" =3D=3D Miles Bader writes: Miles> So I guess the choice is "reasonable", except for the ordering of Miles> Vera before Dejavu. I don't know the reason for that offhand, Miles> but I imagine perhaps it's because Vera is used as a general Miles> default these days, and Dejavu is something still installed as an Miles> optional package. Keith wrote about that on the fontconfig list. IIRC, the issue was that the quality of the glyphs added by DejaVu might not be the same as those in Vera, and perhaps other fonts should take precedence for languages and scripts in that catagory. i tend to disagree, but my impression was that he got feedback from distributions=E2=80=94who had gotten feedback from their userbase=E2=80=94= essentially requesting the current choice. Personally, I leave Vera out of the aliases on my box and rely on just DejaVu for those outlines. (Written in variable-pitch-mode using DejaVu Serif. :) (Although, interestingly, it does not show up in the list of minor modes in the mode line. Only (Message SC MML Abbref Fill Narrow) are there. Is there a limit on how many are included in the string?) -JimC --=20 James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6