From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: build broken: no defun org-float-time. Who's guilty, and what does he propose? Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:15:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20090907092823.GA3210@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252322189 28822 80.91.229.12 (7 Sep 2009 11:16:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 13:16:22 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MkcCr-0008EN-HG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:16:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43760 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkcCq-0002Hp-Uh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:16:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkcCI-000274-Lq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkcCD-000242-Ld for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:15:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46903 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkcCD-00023v-Ct for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:15:41 -0400 Original-Received: from iwfs.imcode.com ([82.115.149.64]:35074 helo=gate.verona.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkcCB-0002FA-1w; Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:15:39 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:1005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gate.verona.se (8.13.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id n87BFaSQ009804; Mon, 7 Sep 2009 13:15:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:05:32 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115081 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Alan Mackenzie writes: >> This is a serious process bug we have, we've had for years, and we MUST >> fix. If it's not fixed soon, I'm just going to give up on Emacs >> maintenance and bid the project goodbye. The pain level is too high. > > I agree that this sort of thing can be annoying, but the procedure for > dealing with such things is well known and not particular onerous: > "make bootstrap" (could be a bit onerous if you've got a very slow > machine though) > > Moreover, it happens very rarely -- I'd guess only a few times a year, > and far less often than the more usual sort of problem where somebody > just committed a bogus change that simply doesn't compile (though that > kind of problem is fairly rare too). > > I don't know how you get "the pain level is too high" out of that... It does kind of interrupt ones workflow. I scratched my head a lot last time, because I thought the error was on my end and didnt think of bootstraping. > > -Miles -- Joakim Verona