From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:03:30 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87lj8nsndb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <19545.14451.62000.682223@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19545.19472.187000.199606@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19545.20656.500000.91025@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280923429 12985 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2010 12:03:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Drew Adams , joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 04 14:03:46 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgchF-00070W-CA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:03:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51951 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OgchE-0003ls-Um for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:03:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55478 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ogch6-0003hB-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ogch4-0008KX-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:03:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:51656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ogch4-0008KE-DV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:03:34 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A837F1C004A5; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:03:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from hase.home (ppp-88-217-100-9.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.100.9]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3172F1C000B1; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:03:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: Kids, the seven basic food groups are GUM, PUFF PASTRY, PIZZA, PESTICIDES, ANTIBIOTICS, NUTRA-SWEET and MILK DUDS!! In-Reply-To: <19545.20656.500000.91025@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Uday S. Reddy's message of "Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:36:16 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128231 Archived-At: Uday S Reddy writes: > Further, I don't think the argument has validity. You don't have to > "remember" the menu entries. You can see them! You have to remember where to search, and do search for them. And if you change the language you are screwed. What a stupid concept. > At least in Emacs, menubars are just as customizable as key bindings > are. Or, did I get it wrong? In Emacs you have key bindings and M-x, no need for menus. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."