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From: Daiki Ueno <ueno@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Wherein I argue for the inclusion of libnettle in Emacs 24.5
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:11:59 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3siryxhwg.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87txceqzdj.fsf@building.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:36:24 -0800")

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Encryption is, I think, especially fiddly to get right.  That is,
> there are plenty of projects that have gotten it wrong over the years.
> Using the C interfaces in the intended way would help a bit.

I don't know what exactly you mean with "encryption", but real world
use-cases of encryption are not that simple.  Even for symmetric
encryption, you will probably need to consider secret key derivation,
padding, etc.  Using the C interfaces for them in the intended way would
be fiddly to get right.

GPG implements a good set of those already, in an interoperable way.  On
the other hand, who will trust such encrypting code written by a guy
with no crypto/security background?

> That is, there are plenty of projects that have gotten it wrong over
> the years.

As far as I know, only projects that have gotten problems with EPG were
written by the same author who never try to understand the concepts of
EPG/GPG and repeatedly pushes his own fancy crypto ideas with
hypothetical use-cases.
-- 
Daiki Ueno



      reply	other threads:[~2014-02-05  5:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-03 22:36 Wherein I argue for the inclusion of libnettle in Emacs 24.5 Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-04  3:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-04 13:07   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 14:44     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-04 18:36       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 22:44   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-05  2:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-05  2:39       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-05  7:00       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-05  8:13         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-05 13:41           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-05 15:50             ` andres.ramirez
2014-02-05 17:00             ` chad
2014-02-05 18:55               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-06  5:03             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-06 11:49               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-06 13:03                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-06 14:28                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-06 15:05                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-06 15:54                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-07  2:06                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07  6:51                       ` David Kastrup
2014-02-07  7:15                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07  8:53                           ` David Kastrup
2014-02-07 10:00                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07 10:49                               ` David Kastrup
2014-02-07 20:43                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07 21:42                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-07 22:23                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07 15:30                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-07  9:07                     ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-07 11:54                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-08  8:11                         ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-08 16:59                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-05  8:19         ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-04 13:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 16:27   ` Paul Eggert
2014-02-04 18:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 19:04       ` Paul Eggert
2014-02-04 20:11         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 21:46           ` Paul Eggert
2014-02-04 22:44             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 22:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-05  5:11             ` Daiki Ueno [this message]

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