From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Perhaps rearrange *Help* buffer a bit? Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 15:58:40 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="186537"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 09 15:59:05 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hkqe8-000mH2-Ee for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 15:59:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50260 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkqe0-0003wj-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:58:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51988) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkqdt-0003wQ-Qv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:58:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hkqds-0002sc-Nq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:58:49 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:40892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hkqds-0002r5-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hkqdl-0005sF-3q; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 15:58:43 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUUDAwoFReFOjcMBgXL a11aJiaNjLxJAAACWUlEQVQ4jW2UTZLjIAyFRdzZQ9I+ACrYkya5gErsByrc/yrzhJ2ezbBwEj7r /ymU5/8Od+rh9xBO8PZ0+BEIXz05d9yc931dE115zk6zw0nPhw+6E23llThFx8zzzZkj7j0stlpf SbTvg7uB0UK4F7pXnBcL9zBymCP3GyzqAejFKr3f3sqD4y06XwgAj2tSiXlX4cSTo+VDd4f8f1S1 z5s2zYgUCU7I6qoPgDiSzozMJNKGnCyz+jJwU0UOcwCgbICwLZAB9r5PWKw64GqriCE5qc4+DFjY FWMDyG/VNnKbSaJ3ZzsRXKZ5w+uDrSWejuBPFRjoxK0Bd4KtPoUBxABOXB1fA3pKhkGbuE3MaOKq I5jFAoeBtjU/PGr9kbFqx7AZL5gj2KC9T02W1LDnB6x5fElS1uMIgIlhgYsMSSdIZvEBP9r1BHIA f7rS+O/+1xXV8mVNZ3PDegBH922BfLN32Vp8Ar8VAMkXSSyT9QSIAVmVi8SLKMc9fYApERZX7ReR HMZpYVn5ZQHABlZibYnbwGOX8IX27XwAt3QF4K7ZfzNDcav0tjbFLzB9GmnaFCHG5lcTIRK69l1t B8xgJIsBUACcfwuPbCESf+owCxeElZseIJ51bIXctwjmkFYTpS9N+WWBzYBurVtJJnRFZY2WnCmk oTzMPs9usl3pYlBhQM8I8G69m9SOAqH2ncPOjWeK+/TwUsyi0EsCFjPnjP3csfFn5Q96NfdnH4iD hZsWoSwQ6IKVQXQs827/CweAN+ixFnwn6wI+EdX2/FFdLXX9sNV+4B5x/wKuJbN8Ljru7QAAAABJ RU5ErkJggg== In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 08 Jul 2019 19:30:21 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 80.91.231.51 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:238443 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Sounds about right, yes. I think I'd vote to keep the function/macro > distinction displayed by default at least (and maybe function/command as > well). Maybe simply as > > Function: (car LIST) ... > > Return the car of LIST. If arg is nil, return nil. > Error if arg is not nil and not a cons cell. See also =E2=80=98car-s= afe=E2=80=99. > > See Info node =E2=80=98(elisp)Cons Cells=E2=80=99 for a discussion of= related basic > Lisp concepts such as car, cdr, cons cell and list. Yes, that makes sense -- whether something's a macro or not is pretty important information. > Maybe you're right. Then again, I think it's worth keeping the block > highlighted somehow to clearly indicate the difference between the > docstring and the auto-generated metadata, maybe with a discreet > background color. Yes, that sounds good. Should I perhaps just start a branch for this and start hacking? This is the sort of thing that'll probably take a lot of tweaks to get right, because it's all about aesthetics and readability. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no