From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Florian von Savigny Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: modifying movemail Date: 20 Jun 2004 00:45:43 +0200 Organization: 1&1 Internet AG Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87d63vwip2.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <87wu236vxe.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1088536954 21753 80.91.224.253 (29 Jun 2004 19:22:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 29 21:22:07 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BfOBC-00063f-00 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:22:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BfOCs-0003tR-T7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:23:50 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!feed.news.tiscali.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!feed.news.schlund.de!schlund.de!news.online.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 55 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p50904706.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Original-X-Trace: online.de 1087685143 24948 80.144.71.6 (19 Jun 2004 22:45:43 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@einsundeins.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:45:43 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:123842 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:19200 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:19200 We both seem to be online right now, the way you were faster than my immediate addendum... Pascal Bourguignon writes: > > So thanks a lot - but is anybody able to help with the conversion (or > > supply a pointer to the right information)? > > > In emacs: C-h i m emacs RET m rmail RET m movemail RET Sorry, I thought I had already read this information and that it contained nothing helpful. That wasn't quite right: --snip-- When getting new mail, Rmail first copies the new mail from the inbox file to the Rmail file; then it saves the Rmail file; then it truncates the inbox file. This way, a system crash may cause duplication of mail between the inbox and the Rmail file, but cannot lose mail. --snap-- Thus, normally, movemail isn't even used. That had escaped me. --snip-- In some cases, Rmail copies the new mail from the inbox file indirectly. First it runs the `movemail' program to move the mail from the inbox to an intermediate file called `~/.newmail-INBOXNAME'. Then Rmail merges the new mail from that file, saves the Rmail file, and only then deletes the intermediate file. --snap-- Sounds like this intermediate file is the second argument to movemail. What makes me wonder now is: is the fact alone that emacs under Linux hangs when trying to rmail-get-new-mail from a spool file on a FAT32 partition enough proof that it is using movemail? After all, it might hang when executing its lisp code, and modifying movemail would not change a bit about that... [I'll spare the theoretical question: under what circumstances and why Emacs (does not) use(s) movemail.] -- Florian v. Savigny If you are going to reply in private, please be patient, as I only check for mail something like once a week. - Si vous allez répondre personellement, patientez s.v.p., car je ne lis les courriels qu'environ une fois par semaine.