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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 16:54:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3r6ucds23.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <459BB893.9010106@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Wed\, 03 Jan 2007 14\:07\:15 +0000")

Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> This conflict arose because the designers of Windows
>>> did not concern themselves with how Emacs used these characters.
>>>     
>
> I suggest that at least the above sentence must be removed, as it
> incorrectly gives the designers of Windows credit for the CUA
> standard.

Well, it is a bit blurry whether C-z C-x C-c C-v is actually part of CUA.

IIRC, they come from the Mac (or Lisa) as the "Apple+Z" etc keys, and
since Apple made revisions to the CUA spec, these bindings ended up in
Windoze as C-z etc.

But it is right that M$ didn't invent CUA.

> In fact, I suggest that advertising Windows in this text and including
> it in a Windows specific section of the manual is inappropriate, as
> many systems now use the control key as the default modifier for their
> CUA keybindings (Gnome and KDE for example).

Yes, although I seldom use Windoze for any serious work (expect
reading my company mail) I still prefer to use the CUA bindings to be
compatible with a lot of other FREE applications that I use -- and
Windoze when I have to :-).

So this basically has _nothing_ to do with Windoze as such ... it has
something to do with the majority of "modern" gui applications which
are (more or less) CUA compliant.

So I agree that this is the wrong part of the Manual to put this info.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-03 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1H1qoi-0001av-Hq@monty-python.gnu.org>
2007-01-02 22:00 ` Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7 Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-02 22:28   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-02 23:02   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-03  3:46   ` Nick Roberts
2007-01-03 13:05   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-03 14:07   ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-03 15:54     ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2007-01-03 18:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-04  2:31     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04  4:33       ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2007-01-04  7:30         ` David Kastrup
2007-01-04  9:28           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-04 10:24             ` David Kastrup
2007-01-04 11:35         ` Jan Djärv
2007-01-04 12:25           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-04 12:49             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-04 22:34             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-05 13:39               ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-06  2:55                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06 23:55                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-01-07 23:23                   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-07 23:56                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08  0:16                       ` Drew Adams
2007-01-08 15:35                       ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-08 18:24                         ` David Kastrup
2007-01-08 21:10                           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-08 19:46                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04 22:33         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-04  8:08       ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-03 21:11   ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09  0:05 kevin.gal
2007-01-09  1:16 ` Chris Moore
2007-01-11  2:16   ` Kevin Gallagher
2007-01-11 16:49     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-11 17:46       ` Peter Whaite
2007-01-11 17:55         ` tomas
2007-01-11 18:35           ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-14 20:46         ` Richard Stallman

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