From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Compiling Elisp to a native code with a GCC plugin Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:09:46 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <87bp805ecr.fsf@gmail.com> <87iq26z97e.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y6b0yi8o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284729070 1368 80.91.229.12 (17 Sep 2010 13:11:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:11:10 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 17 15:11:09 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Owaia-0001fd-Oe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:11:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40699 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Owaia-0007g1-1n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:11:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60940 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Owahd-000756-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:10:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwahV-0002EY-A4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:58482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwahU-0002DQ-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:10:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OwahR-0000sX-P9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:09:57 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:09:57 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:09:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEX6sbAdBQj2mZsPAQOP MDDpfov98vPyjZZLExbRYGu3BiJ3AAACMElEQVQ4jW2UMYvcMBCFhblb2FKo2XIRJCal0S84okLb HSHCcefKcF0wCLGluS1UHzas/m3ejGzvFplCxXx68zRjySL74BGt1pXWbfBdztYma8XSRpA26rOo dI1debbWXrJYIoNRCwZFQcCzIhIQOiwAloATPsboQ9QFdB4CZ1NKDBCwAIghs0VKE0D9AAEObjpN KckVjAyqGnlljEyTEjioRp4soMjzZIw5JWlEjLWuAbjUdXafxjQn0BVUG0hUSSoCtUatxRfzTJVW AI/r4vMXwLeOrBspDYER++DRAQQnWWBWcIVIn4OofmP/KuBSP5DX4vW9upvNoYAR50Ifx2UFZgOR +tCiyneupDZQjwzgf39UIkAjpKg7bqLkV8ADDrN6VAII5YNE3808jmYDvnwq73nksFA7IBIIZCfl bh4Y0Jrz4t9kI82zwvO98eN9EyhWcHQ2++imRpkyki3v5wuG70hBxZoddATGPw3ZU587yBanmj9X 0DwDa91EX0OqZ9Dl2aWJPxMp5Gk/VRvnHSjcrA38Ev3V7qDZQXsYelRDD0xkugnu2p+HoccEfqIH 3EN5SlbQnNq/h2EQ+nx8Qy2FdLoVMCLf4169ODrPJBM9TnoDyA8Cy4dTTbo5yltRx1EMJKDFScrh rQHg3gwkoOXD7nERJd9TteHF5g1kUfK8Uis5v+N1XrpF8Naycnzv6dniVTwJOA79+st4OKxgmNnk aW+J/mgdGv8PuCeMJKV/s3lPOI9YIjwAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Juana Molina's _Tres Cosas_: "Yo =?iso-8859-1?Q?s=E9?= que" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TdnbpVe/Qxzooa9tVoMHXbH+YKE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130297 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > > Does everything have to be slow? :-) > > Wrong polarity. The question here is "does everything have to be > fast?", and the answer is "no -- I mean, HELL NO!" > > Make your case that this function needs to be faster than a pure elisp > implementation. I think that's a rather ... stunning approach, but might explain many things about XEmacs. I've presented a use case, and I've demonstrated how all the alternative implementations are 50-150% slower than my suggested new implementation, and I've done the implementation, which turned out to be totally trivial. What more do you need? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen