From: Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:08:37 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3r42daawq.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy4wlbrrw.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.help@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 24 Jun 2014 23:22:15 -0400")
On 2014-06-24 23:22 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Agreed. They also work OK for macros since those are not supposed to be
> executed at run-time. Keyword arguments are particularly problematic in
> Elisp where the language implementations are all fairly simplistic with
> very limited optimizations.
>
>
> Stefan
I think the issue with CL.el is it was castigated in the official manual
too early. It isn't bloated by any standard today. There are many things
in emacs that do less with more mess and bloat. For me I always pretend
cl.el is preloaded and happily use it. It surprise me many times how
thoughtful it is and I felt a bit of thrill when I reduced half of dozen
lines of code to one with clever combination of arguments. Sometimes I
take a moment to wonder how can those bastards foresee such a use case
;)
Leo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-25 4:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-17 17:13 Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp? Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-17 18:36 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 18:56 ` Doug Lewan
2014-06-17 19:06 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 19:55 ` Doug Lewan
2014-06-17 22:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-18 11:00 ` Nicolas Petton
[not found] ` <mailman.3879.1403089222.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-18 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-18 14:43 ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-18 15:43 ` Damien Cassou
2014-06-18 16:31 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <mailman.3896.1403106263.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-24 13:51 ` Christoph Wedler
2014-06-24 16:24 ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-25 3:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 4:08 ` Leo Liu [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.4252.1403669342.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-25 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.4251.1403666567.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-25 10:24 ` Christoph Wedler
2014-06-25 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 15:37 ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-25 23:44 ` Robert Thorpe
2014-06-18 14:43 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.3837.1403026153.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-20 0:20 ` WJ
2014-06-20 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] <mailman.3836.1403025251.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-17 21:42 ` Barry Margolin
[not found] <mailman.4322.1403739913.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-26 0:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26 5:27 ` Barry Margolin
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