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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: RFC: String interpolation
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:44:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3r35dcwht.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr35dub31.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 11 Dec 2016 21:39:30 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> Keyword paramaters are also an option:
>>> (fmt "This is %{thing}.2f and %{zot}ss" :thing (funcall '+ 3.42423 4))
>> Yeah, that's prettier.
>
> FWIW, I don't see why that's preferable to
>
>     (let ((thing (funcall '+ 3.45453 4)))
>       (preformat "This is %[2f]{thing} and %{zot}ss"))

I think it's preferable in a code life cycle perspective.  You frequently
start out with

(fmt "This is %{thing}.2f")

because you have something in a variable you want to output.  But then
you see that you have to alter it before display, so then you have

(let ((thing-formatted (replace-regexp-in-string " +" " " thing)))
  (fmt "This is %{thing-formatted}.2f"))

That is, you're forced to both name and introduce a new temporary
variable, and you have to alter the format statement itself.  (This is
what PHP programmers do all the time, and it kinda sucks.)

With the optional keyword arguments, you just add it:

  (fmt "This is %{thing}.2f"
       :thing (replace-regexp-in-string " +" " " thing))

This sucks slightly less, in my opinion.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-12  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-08  1:13 RFC: String interpolation Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-08  8:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-08  8:38   ` Joost Kremers
2016-12-08  9:05     ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-12-08 18:25   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-08  9:02 ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-12-08 18:22   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-08 14:43 ` Joost Kremers
2016-12-08 18:37   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-08 20:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-09  8:57     ` Joost Kremers
2016-12-08 15:51 ` Drew Adams
2016-12-08 18:21   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-08 20:38   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]   ` <<E1cF5SK-0000HO-EL@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-12-08 22:04     ` Drew Adams
2016-12-08 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-08 19:31   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-08 21:31     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-10 16:01       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-09 19:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-12-09 22:45   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-11  2:53     ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-12-11 18:46       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-11 18:56         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-11 19:34           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-11 17:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-11 17:53       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-10 14:11   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-10 14:25     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-10 15:39       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-10 15:49         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-10 16:01           ` Yuri Khan
2016-12-10 17:58             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-11 17:47             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-11 19:31               ` Yuri Khan
2016-12-11 20:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-11  9:35           ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-11 16:29             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-11 18:42             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-12 19:41               ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-11 18:41           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-11 21:05             ` Helmut Eller
2016-12-11 21:26               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-12  2:39                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-12  9:44                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2016-12-12 13:03                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-12 14:47                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-12 15:04                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-12 15:26                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-12 17:05                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-12 17:12                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-12 17:23                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-12 13:40                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-12 14:43                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-12 14:54                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-12 17:14                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-12 17:46                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-12 18:33                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-12 19:51                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-12-12 20:41                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-12 23:40                           ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-13 17:42                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-13 18:05                               ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-13 23:55                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-14  0:07                                   ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-14  0:10                                     ` John Wiegley
2016-12-14  0:14                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-14  0:17                                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-14  0:26                                         ` John Wiegley
2016-12-14  1:48                                           ` Drew Adams
2016-12-14  2:48                                             ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-12-14  3:33                                               ` Drew Adams
2016-12-14  3:52                                                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-12-14 13:52                                             ` Lars Brinkhoff
2016-12-14 13:57                                               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2016-12-14  0:24                                       ` Drew Adams
2016-12-14  0:21                                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-14 14:10                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-14 17:00                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-12 19:43                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-12 21:11                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-13 17:41                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-13 17:43                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-14 17:01                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-13  1:04                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-12-12 16:39                   ` Helmut Eller

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