From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: not too happy with Emacs 21 vertical-line dragging when scrollbars present Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:19:28 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097187620 7588 80.91.229.6 (7 Oct 2004 22:20:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 22:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 08 00:20:11 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CFgcN-00074V-00 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:20:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CFgj8-0000iJ-7c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 18:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CFgis-0000dw-94 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 18:26:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CFgir-0000dK-5l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 18:26:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CFgir-0000dH-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 18:26:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.237] (helo=pfepc.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CFgba-0002Ak-C5; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 18:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 48156262805; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 00:19:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:33:01 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28065 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28065 "Drew Adams" writes: > I would prefer the "thin line on the side of the scrollbar" (all the way > up). That is common in many applications. Hopefully, it wouldn't be _too_ > difficult to grab, and it would have the big advantage of being where you > expect it, and being pretty obvious (via mouse-over pointer change). You > want to drag the scroll bar? -- well, just drag it (or, that thin line all > along it). > > That would be a lot better, IMO, than what we have now. The current display engine need to position windows on a multiple of the frame default column width, so it is not trivial to introduce a 'thin line all the way up'. It is on my plan for 'after next release' to get rid of this restriction. Once that is done, adding a thin line will be easier, so I don't want to spend time now on a halfbaked solution. At least, 21.4 will not be any worse than 21.3. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk