From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 00:23:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <459BB893.9010106@gnu.org> <8764bns96l.fsf@cs.cmu.edu> <459CE689.3020006@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1168212262 1042 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2007 23:24:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 23:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se, jasonr@gnu.org, md5i@cs.cmu.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 08 00:24:16 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H3hN9-0002GP-Ek for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 00:24:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H3hN8-0008Uf-M5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:24:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H3hMy-0008UH-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H3hMx-0008U5-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H3hMx-0008Tu-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:24:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.236] (helo=pfepb.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H3hMn-0004Gn-NR; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:23:54 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx19.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id AA3A8A5006F; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 00:23:34 +0100 (CET) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri\, 05 Jan 2007 21\:55\:04 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64941 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Why does it matter whether it was IBM, Apple or M$ who invented the > C-z C-x C-c C-v shortcuts (and thus broke compatibility with Emacs)? > > someone else said it was unfair to attribute these to Microsoft, since > others actually designed the interface. > > No matter what we think or feel, or whether history is on our side, > most "modern" applications use these bindings -- including GNOME, KDE > and Firefox, so today it is Emacs which is "incompatible" with "common > practice". > > That is why it is important to note that Emacs and its command set > came first. So you claim to have invented the concept of doing cut, copy, and paste via keyboard commands, and that Emacs was the first program to do that? Otherwise, this whole argument is silly. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk