From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version' Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:22:47 -0600 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0705101124r72000f78xdf05d18ca815ca57@mail.gmail.com> <17991.47259.210100.801472@localhost.localdomain> <18001.2716.796568.143550@rgrjr.dyndns.org> Reply-To: tromey@redhat.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179765848 10995 80.91.229.12 (21 May 2007 16:44:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 16:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bob Rogers , joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 21 18:44:06 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HqAzO-0007CT-6t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 18:44:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqAzN-0008FQ-Qd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:44:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HqAy0-0006aS-8K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:42:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HqAxy-0006YR-NJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:42:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqAxy-0006Y4-IY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:42:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HqAxx-0000EM-HS; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:42:37 -0400 Original-Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4LGgPj0032720; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:42:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pobox.corp.redhat.com (pobox.corp.redhat.com [10.11.255.20]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4LGgPZ1007570; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:42:25 -0400 Original-Received: from opsy.redhat.com (ton.toronto.redhat.com [172.16.14.15]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4LGgOh1030532; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:42:24 -0400 Original-Received: by opsy.redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id E219D3786EB; Mon, 21 May 2007 10:22:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 21 May 2007 09\:24\:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71526 Archived-At: >>>>> "rms" == Richard Stallman writes: > Why would GNU/Linux distributors stop using their own well-established > mechanisms for publishing Emacs add-ons? rms> I don't know what they do now. Would you like to tell me? Fedora's Emacs package by default removes some Emacs functionality (tetris, on advice of lawyers) and also adds a (seemingly random) set of additions to the system site-lisp directory. I can send a list of the additions if you like. Some of them appear to be redundant with new additions to Emacs 22 (but perhaps they are better versions of existing modes, I don't know). Fedora also defines a way to package Emacs add-ons. At least AUCTeX, Muse, and VM are packaged this way, and BBDB is in the works. Generally these packages install into site-lisp and add a file that is loaded by default by Emacs startup; this file handles autoloads and the like. Tom