From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David O'Toole Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: un-deprecating CL Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:17:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <864phxjj03.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> <87hclx834d.fsf@red-bean.com> <86ps0jiwfm.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> <86k5qqgh9y.fsf@macs.hw.ac.uk> <46EF7F3E.8070107@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190260625 14467 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2007 03:57:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 20 05:57:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYD9w-0001nV-EI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:57:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYD9u-00007N-LU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:56:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IY6v3-0002Tg-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:17:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IY6v1-0002Q6-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:17:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IY6v1-0002Pt-Ce for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:17:11 -0400 Original-Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.234]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IY6v1-0008LU-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:17:11 -0400 Original-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s7so246474wxc for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:17:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=hvNW4kWBPjnqof8hDlP2xjBv6Xk8Asg76yolF+ktGwc=; b=HzQbgoHJAfw68s37Z+q4AxVn7etGCVHJiKDe2hoCbakGPjFvaMKbrbjoF6MJWNl7zrzuQE6h4HJjpLOHl7g+IJ4bGWrYGiToVFyfJCB/i8zNeKjqOLcBrzC+7mJ8Sw3c3w+RIa2r7WyMdL/UzK4ic8Xu/AVin8F0wL2Bw2H8vXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=CaBFlZRuw3X6KbYx5GpWStrOvjJ6ChWF4dOgItwOUWogfNzs/AbTj4xBLVsb6aeRC2OtNTVgaIqorzssoNqy+MK0rLOicyfB7JHyT8u2xdmpa+2FLOREbTERtJSXpW7XEJWA/7dt/kPO2smCLtTIAU5KJ0lZuzwbME5DqTTm8nI= Original-Received: by 10.90.92.10 with SMTP id p10mr934003agb.1190236630281; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain ( [24.183.185.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z26sm1896031ele.2007.09.19.14.17.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAADFBMVEWWKwTDUQbecQ/1kCFb ic5lAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAALEwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH1wELDREeiIClpgAAAa5JREFUKM8tj7Fu nEAQhmcjkSJNDslrJW+DJW/qI2I2uaSwG4iMpfhpOOloUgWJRYImTUAy75EiZYo7iR5bZvIvNlSf vn/+maWEn79D5RwF4VnMnFZZDojZ4Lc222eOdJjAmPTgYC4SwxyFfNjnjlizPiOd76rKkTHhx0hp V5cwvprItrOvNsZsSNlu8SaOOSKVNVKVLWIhkfrSjH+cb/sMKJvxX4mZ+NKbTh5cS8zXRPRpkIe8 pRhlRG9GWfwMRxsKXt1fLT6mo4jeq8UK9mgD805JPa4FF5hRT524BtUrzFfiTaIA9OutNzF7UPcf pOmJo9iDLGssMiuIj+H9EeAOMAG0hx/yHAu2RMF3kf4EYID2sYF4qwGvh1FO/hxOYBBziPEO5vyv yIQY32xJ8ZP49+w4R+wrlk4TWc4Lom8iyxEzWf7zxQxUsANYQDuQzfJ6S+edCGKFdS/Qo/rQ1gnx rUzNQIfS1UzBHV6APZnLik3QrWZf9jVHtns84uq0/F1yrHH0MFBZ9Zxs7CDeFOWcsrIjTpsoT2fm EOcc29VwjDJ5RFuWzpeJGUVO/fAf1lkLWqs5deQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed\, 19 Sep 2007 11\:49\:07 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:56:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79349 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > The complexity that bothers me is the complexity of the programming > > interface. This is not about implementation. > > I don't understand what is complicated about the programming interface > of keyword arguments. > > I've done all I can to explain my decision. > We may just see these things differently. Okay :-). I hope I have not been too much of a pest, I just felt strongly about it. -- David O'Toole dto@gnu.org http://dto.freeshell.org/notebook/