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From: joakim@verona.se
To: tomas@tuxteam.de
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>,
	John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Embedding SQLite
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:43:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3ochhw9a0.fsf@verona.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100418053925.GA7294@tomas> (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:39:25 +0200")

tomas@tuxteam.de writes:

> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 05:52:23AM +0200, Juanma Barranquero wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 05:21, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Also, if we use dynamic loading and then a user doesn't have it, now
>> > they can't use a Lisp module -- something which has never been true before.
>> 
>> There are lots of image types that you cannot display if you don't
>> have the libraries (which, on Windows, are dynamically loaded). How is
>> that different? And how is that different of the packages that require
>> external programs?
>
> I must second John's concern here. This increasing dependency on
> external libraries (which is set at build time!) tends to become a
> nuisance in binary distributions. For example, in Debian, Emacs already
> pulls in libdbus. Now libselinux is on the horizon. Then it's sqlite.
> I'd fear it won't scale.
>
> For me the solution will be to compile Emacs from source, but that isn't a
> solution for everybody.
>
> I haven't got a good idea either. Maybe the problem is in binary
> distributions themselves.

People are looking into using a similar scheme for dynamic loadable
plugins in Emacs as already used in GCC. If an acceptable solution is
found, external libraries can be plugged in at runtime.

I've looked briefly at how GCC does it, and basically they seem to check
for a symbol that indicates gpl compliance.

That said, IMHO I would want something more lispy to to store lisp
structures efficiently, and something more JDBC:ish to communicate with
RDBMS:es. If one just want name/value store, there are many other
interesting NOSQL type solutions, like Apacha Cassandra, etc.

OK, sorry for hijacking this thread.

>
> Regards
> -- tomás
-- 
Joakim Verona




  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-18  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-17 19:55 Embedding SQLite Florian Weimer
2010-04-17 21:58 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-04-18  3:21   ` John Wiegley
2010-04-18  3:52     ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-18  5:39       ` tomas
2010-04-18  6:43         ` joakim [this message]
2010-04-18  8:09           ` FFI (was: Embedding SQLite) Juri Linkov
2010-04-18  8:22             ` FFI Florian Weimer
2010-04-18 18:53               ` FFI Zajcev Evgeny
2010-04-18 20:25                 ` FFI Florian Weimer
2010-04-19  6:39                   ` FFI Zajcev Evgeny
2010-04-19  7:31                     ` FFI joakim
2010-04-19  8:33                       ` FFI Zajcev Evgeny
2010-04-19  7:44                     ` telepathy (was: FFI) Michael Albinus
2010-04-19  8:25                       ` telepathy Zajcev Evgeny
2010-04-19  8:56                         ` telepathy Michael Albinus
2010-04-20  2:28                       ` telepathy (was: FFI) Jan Moringen
2010-04-20  7:15                         ` telepathy Zajcev Evgeny
2010-04-20  8:26                         ` telepathy Michael Albinus
2010-04-21  2:00                           ` telepathy Jan Moringen
     [not found]                     ` <jwv4oj7d07h.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2010-04-19 13:52                       ` FFI Florian Weimer
2010-04-19  8:43                   ` FFI Andreas Schwab
2010-04-18  6:53     ` Embedding SQLite Florian Weimer
2010-04-18  9:33     ` Leo
     [not found] ` <jwvy6gked8g.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2010-04-18 20:23   ` Florian Weimer
2010-04-19 18:26 ` Ted Zlatanov

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