From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: elpa.gnu.org repository sync with Emacs Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:44:49 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87mxpabjj3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8762vyz5rl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8739r2z1w8.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87y68t8jif.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87r5eljosw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289936718 30808 80.91.229.12 (16 Nov 2010 19:45:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 20:45:14 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIRSp-00020L-0g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:45:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60127 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIRSo-0007LV-9c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:45:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37861 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIRSg-0007Kw-1E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:45:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIRSa-0005ET-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:45:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:55648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIRSa-0005E7-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:44:56 -0500 Original-Received: from int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAGJiqcW008889 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:44:52 -0500 Original-Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oAGJiqbA001924; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:44:52 -0500 Original-Received: from opsy.redhat.com (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.9.1]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAGJipiV007946; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:44:51 -0500 Original-Received: by opsy.redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id F2E913784F6; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:44:50 -0700 (MST) X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:00:10 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.23 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132749 Archived-At: >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: Lars> I don't honestly see how this helps either Emacs users or people who hack Lars> on Emacs. I can name a few benefits. One is that a big package like gnus, with its own release schedule, can push updates to elpa.gnu.org between Emacs releases. This helps gnus users. (And, due to the way package activation is done, when such a user upgrades Emacs, the right thing will still happen.) Another benefit is that by being in Emacs, it provides elisp authors some simple packaging guidelines. My hope is that over time, most 3rd party elisp will follow these rules (meaning it will be trivial for users to install the code, regardless of how they get it). I also hope the distros move to using package.el for elisp activation. Tom