From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9244: 24.0.50; Server put offline without any prompt Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:43:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1313626342 21333 80.91.229.12 (18 Aug 2011 00:12:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9244@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 18 02:12:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QtqDX-0002XZ-2b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 02:12:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38524 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtpxz-0005qx-0G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:56:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33697) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtpxw-0005ql-8d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtpxv-0001I1-4F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:56:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37223) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtpxv-0001Hw-1Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:56:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtpzl-000555-TA; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:58:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9244 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9244-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9244.131362545119469 (code B ref 9244); Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9244) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2011 23:57:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QtpzF-00053p-1f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QtpzD-00053f-4B for 9244@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:57:28 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QtpxE-0007Ss-Dq; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:55:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:20:24 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Various's _The Wire Tapper 26_: "Savaging Spires - Bending the Rules of Time" X-MailScanner-ID: 1QtpxE-0007Ss-Dq MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1314230124.60205@T3P6wRMv5SP6H4C7je0aCw X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:58:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50120 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Occasionally an NNTP (or IMAP) server refuses to answer. In Emacs-23, > Gnus then prompted me something like "Unable to open server foo, go offline? " > > In Emacs-24, this has disappeared at the server is just marked offline > silently (maybe there's a warning message, but if so I never get to > notice it). Yes, it's marked "denied" if you can't open it. > Can the prompting be re-introduced, please? No, the go-offline thing didn't make any sense in most situations. The offline/online thing is a global Gnus thing, and if (say) your IMAP connection to Gmail fails, it makes no sense to put Gnus offline with respect to the other servers. So I think the current behaviour makes the most sense. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/