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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147838 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > But I'd be willing to bet it's going to cause annoyance to more than > the three Emacs developers using the Linux console if you start on it > right now. If I ssh from my cell phone, and use Emacs under that, all unicode-ish characters turn into four-letter monstrosities, which renders the text unreadable. I think it's about a decade too soon to think about making a change from ASCII-mostly help texts in Emacs. Maybe (just maybe) these things will work better in 2022, and we can start discussing it again. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/