From: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: remember(-diary).el
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:41:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3lk8qo94u.fsf@cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4745446E.6010009@gmx.at
On 2007-11-22 08:57 +0000, martin rudalics wrote:
>>>As I understand it (it's been a fairly long time since I've used the
>>>more primitive versions of windows), the "short name" chosen for a long
>>>name is explicitly chosen to ensure it doesn't clash with any other
>
>>>short names. E.g., for the file "remember-diary.el", it might choose
>>>"rememb~1.el" as a short name.
>>
>> In theory, yes, but in practice, the algorithm that chooses the short
>> 8+3 alias has bugs that could well cause a clash, depending on what
>> other files are present in the directory whose names map to the same
>> strings after 8+3 truncation, and in what order Windows sees the files
>> created.
>
> FWIW Eli's right:
>
> (1) If remember.el is created _before_ remember-diary.el, the 8+3 alias
> of the former is written to disk as REMEMBER.EL that of the latter as
> REMEMB~1.EL (I did use the disk editor to verify that).
>
> (2) If remember-diary.el is created first, its 8+3 alias is written to
> disk as REMEMBER.EL. When I now try to find a file remember.el in the
> same directory, Windows finds remember-diary.el instead. When I try to
> store a file remember.el in that directory, Windows complains that such
> a file already exists.
>
> In general the problem occurs when the name of the second file I want to
> write has eight characters _and_ is a prefix of the name of the first
> file. Hence, I get the same bug for remember_diary.el vs remember.el as
> well as for rememberdiary.el vs remember.el.
>
> With other words: When the name of a file A sans extension is a prefix
> of the name of a file B sans extension and the length of the name of
> file A sans extension equals 8, file A must be created before file B in
> order for having both files coexist in the same directory. I didn't
> bother to check this rule for filenames containing a tilde.
>
> My problem with the CVS repository thus could be resolved by renaming
> remember.el to something like remember-core.el.
remember-diary probably should be included with planner (an external
package) instead of in Emacs. AFAIK, it has not been used in any
packages except planner.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-22 10:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-21 7:24 remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-21 7:32 ` remember(-diary).el Miles Bader
2007-11-21 8:39 ` remember(-diary).el Glenn Morris
2007-11-21 18:49 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-21 23:57 ` remember(-diary).el John Wiegley
2007-11-21 8:44 ` remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-21 13:55 ` remember(-diary).el Miles Bader
2007-11-21 17:06 ` remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-21 18:50 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-22 2:13 ` remember(-diary).el Miles Bader
2007-11-22 4:18 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-22 8:57 ` remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-22 9:44 ` remember(-diary).el joakim
2007-11-23 4:35 ` remember(-diary).el Richard Stallman
2007-11-23 20:56 ` remember(-diary).el Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-23 21:46 ` remember(-diary).el David Kastrup
2007-11-22 10:41 ` Leo [this message]
2007-11-22 23:57 ` remember(-diary).el Juri Linkov
2007-11-23 0:10 ` remember(-diary).el Leo
2007-11-30 6:17 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-30 8:27 ` remember(-diary).el Leo
2007-11-30 12:40 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-22 2:27 ` remember(-diary).el Richard Stallman
2007-11-30 6:22 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-30 16:48 ` remember(-diary).el Richard Stallman
2007-11-30 18:42 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-30 19:06 ` remember(-diary).el Glenn Morris
2007-11-30 22:11 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-30 22:22 ` remember(-diary).el Leo
2007-12-01 9:07 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-01 9:56 ` remember(-diary).el David Kastrup
2007-12-01 9:06 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-02 21:33 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-03 4:18 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 15:13 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-03 15:44 ` remember(-diary).el Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-03 1:05 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-03 4:22 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 14:40 ` remember(-diary).el Stefan Monnier
2007-12-03 20:51 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-01 17:59 ` remember(-diary).el Richard Stallman
2007-11-30 20:57 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-30 22:07 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-05 1:22 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-05 4:46 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-21 18:24 ` remember(-diary).el Sven Joachim
2007-11-21 18:54 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-22 13:32 ` remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-22 23:57 ` remember(-diary).el Juri Linkov
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