From: joakim@verona.se
To: chad <yandros@mit.edu>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:20:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3lihzq88q.fsf@chopper.vpn.verona.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44228733-B2A1-4C55-B3E4-D634A149AFB4@mit.edu> (chad's message of "Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:49:01 -0700")
chad <yandros@mit.edu> writes:
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> As for the server, isn't that what Freedombox is for?
>
> Freedombox looks (to me) like it's more about open, secure, private communications infrastructure, rather than Free compute servers. There is some overlap, and maybe there are plans to expand Freedombox, but as an example, Freedombox would be aimed more at making sure users aren't trapped in gmail, yahoo, facebook, and twitter, while Joakim is talking about making sure users and developers aren't trapped in Google App Engine or Amazon Web Services.
>
> As computing usage moves out of the office and onto mobile devices, quite a lot of desired computing activity is moving into free-not-Free and cheap network services that are (currently) opaque and encumbered. For many of these services, the source code is open, but the service itself is closed, ala TiVo-ization. Quite often, developers use these services (Google or Amazon) simply because the Free alternatives either don't exist or are much more costly (in time and money).
I haven't studied Freedombox in detail. Maybe I can work with the
Freedombox image as a base to provide the services Chad clarifies above.
But the main difference between my goal and FreedomBox seems to be that
I want to provide configuration descriptions for all nodes of a network
of computers and other systems that collaborate at all times. Thats why I
used the term "Cluster".
So, AFAICS FreedomBox does not provide a configuration description for
an OS image that runs on phone hardware, that will rely on a
corresponding image that runs on a server, basically an old school
client-server configuration.
This way I think free software can provide an overall system provididng
the same services as the non-free alternatives with less effort than
providing separate projects that work together only after substantial
configuration.
Anyway, I hope this makes the goal clearer.
[BTW It might seem that this topic is completely OT for this list, but
many of us phone os hackers seem to share the goal of running Emacs
usefully on a phone]
>
> I hope that helps,
> *Chad
>
--
Joakim Verona
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-01 9:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-27 16:47 Emacs Webapp/Plugin Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-27 18:13 ` joakim
2012-07-27 23:56 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-07-28 2:56 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-28 21:26 ` William Gardella
2012-07-29 10:53 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-29 15:21 ` Bastien
2012-07-29 16:14 ` William Gardella
2013-10-04 10:03 ` Alex Bennée
2013-10-04 15:39 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2013-10-05 16:48 ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-06 18:59 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2013-10-07 13:36 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-28 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-29 0:54 ` Miles Bader
2012-07-29 11:18 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-08-05 17:06 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-08 5:19 ` William Gardella
2012-07-29 11:11 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-30 1:47 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-30 2:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-07-30 8:30 ` joakim
2012-07-31 22:32 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-31 22:49 ` chad
2012-08-01 9:20 ` joakim [this message]
2012-08-01 22:42 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-02 7:41 ` joakim
2012-08-02 23:38 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-03 19:09 ` joakim
2012-08-04 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-02 23:38 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-03 19:27 ` joakim
2012-08-04 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-04 8:13 ` joakim
2012-08-04 2:43 ` Jason Rumney
2012-08-05 0:04 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-31 22:32 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-04 10:06 ` Miles Bader
2012-08-04 13:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-08-04 15:38 ` Nix
2012-08-05 0:04 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-05 0:31 ` Miles Bader
2012-08-05 21:01 ` Richard Stallman
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