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From: Daiki Ueno <ueno@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Wherein I argue for the inclusion of libnettle in Emacs 24.5
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:07:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3lhxnthns.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d2j0ck3q.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 06 Feb 2014 10:54:33 -0500")

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> What do you think happens when you open a .gpg file using GnuPG
> externally, even disregarding the OS channels traveled?  That data is
> certainly not safe from defadvice.

Didn't I ever say:

- Once an attacker successfully takes over your desktop session, he can
  do almost everything.  We can't do much on that situation.  Why don't
  you lock the screen before leaving?

- More possible threat is inspecting persistent data (e.g. core files on
  a disk attached to a stolen note PC).  GnuPG is designed to be secure
  against this, using "secure core".

- On the other hand, Emacs copies small strings around.  If passwords
  (normally not too long) are managed poorly in Emacs, they might appear
  repeatedly in a core file, when it crashes.

> Emacs as a whole could use a way to hide "data not intended for direct
> user inspection" better, and provide for a "tainting" trace of data
> (to use the Perl term).

Interesting.  Any prior art on that area?  I haven't heard the word
"tainting" used in that way.  Isn't it for preventing untrusted data
being injected to, say, SQL?
--
Daiki Ueno



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-07  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-03 22:36 Wherein I argue for the inclusion of libnettle in Emacs 24.5 Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-04  3:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-04 13:07   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 14:44     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-04 18:36       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 22:44   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-05  2:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-05  2:39       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-05  7:00       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-05  8:13         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-05 13:41           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-05 15:50             ` andres.ramirez
2014-02-05 17:00             ` chad
2014-02-05 18:55               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-06  5:03             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-06 11:49               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-06 13:03                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-06 14:28                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-06 15:05                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-06 15:54                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-07  2:06                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07  6:51                       ` David Kastrup
2014-02-07  7:15                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07  8:53                           ` David Kastrup
2014-02-07 10:00                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07 10:49                               ` David Kastrup
2014-02-07 20:43                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07 21:42                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-07 22:23                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07 15:30                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-07  9:07                     ` Daiki Ueno [this message]
2014-02-07 11:54                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-08  8:11                         ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-08 16:59                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-05  8:19         ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-04 13:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 16:27   ` Paul Eggert
2014-02-04 18:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 19:04       ` Paul Eggert
2014-02-04 20:11         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 21:46           ` Paul Eggert
2014-02-04 22:44             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 22:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-05  5:11             ` Daiki Ueno

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