all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can Emacs beat NetBeans or Eclipse?
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:53:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3k5n3lyao.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20071224200652.i3td3mxwb48kkk4c@webmail.eng.it

>>>>> "Gian" == Gian Uberto Lauri <saint@eng.it> writes:

>> Eclipse also has some nice team features.  You can check in various
>> project files and anyone who checks out the project will automatically
>> get the right indentation settings, language compliance settings,
>> build paths, etc.

Gian> Build paths? Unless all of the team mates have the same file system
Gian> layout forget of them moving seamlessly from one user PC to another.

Gian> Even worse if they DO NOT use the same O.S.

I glossed over a detail.  Eclipse generally does the right thing here
-- when you set up your project you have it use "containers" and not
full paths.  Then entries like the JDK classes or Eclipse platform
classes are resolved on the end user's machine.  Real paths are not
generally checked in, since as you point out, that would be bad.

The auto-build stuff is not ideal in all environments.  We had mixed
results with using it for GNU Classpath, for instance, since Classpath
has a very "non-Java-like" build.

For pure Java projects, though, it is delightful.  There really isn't
a "build", in that you never have to run "make" or "ant", and the
error/warning view is more or less always up-to-date.  Once I tried
this I was hooked -- no more mucking about with build.xml or similar
trivia.

Maybe you could achieve this with flymake.  I haven't tried.

Gian> Usually, or I use ant or use Eclipse as project handler, debugger (I
Gian> don't know of something as well integrated in Emacs like gdb),
Gian> compiler -uses JDK one, AFAIK- and editor for the very little things.

Tried M-x jdb?  I haven't but I'm curious how it compares.

Gian> I would like to write an eclipse editor to reokace JDT one that uses
Gian> emacsclient like code to trigger Emacs Lisp...

Yeah.  Well, I'd really prefer the reverse -- include the nice bits of
Eclipse in Emacs.  But either way is just a dream until someone writes
it :-)


I've been meaning to give JDEE a try... while we're talking about
wishes, maybe someone could package it for ELPA ;)

Tom

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-24 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-12 14:00 Can Emacs beat NetBeans or Eclipse? John Wells
2007-12-24 18:14 ` Tom Tromey
2007-12-24 19:06   ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2007-12-24 18:53     ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2007-12-25 10:15       ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2007-12-24 19:17     ` Gian Uberto Lauri
     [not found] ` <mailman.5362.1198522014.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-24 21:02   ` Mark Elston
2007-12-24 21:29     ` Tom Tromey
     [not found] <mailman.4919.1197468067.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-17 21:03 ` Malte Spiess
2007-12-19  2:03 ` Galen Boyer

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=m3k5n3lyao.fsf@fleche.redhat.com \
    --to=tromey@redhat.com \
    --cc=help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.