From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:39:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87iq4f8gyh.fsf@telefonica.net> <874ofzl2ji.fsf@mithlond.arda> <201007162023.32116.tassilo@member.fsf.org> <87zkxrjihf.fsf@mithlond.arda> <8739vjf2k2.fsf@gmail.com> <8739vi8x39.fsf@mithlond.arda> <8739vijod6.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279568495 29317 80.91.229.12 (19 Jul 2010 19:41:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Teemu Likonen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 19 21:41:32 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OawAD-0001Tj-It for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:41:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40162 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oaw9v-00012L-TJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:37:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43550 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oaw9b-0000pF-3r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oaw9C-0003wS-Vi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:37:08 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:62431 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oaw9C-0003wI-Sm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:37:06 -0400 Original-Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3676AC5DB7; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:37:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=DMlrnVqN0v/myrfz9mVaZUmXXwA=; b=vMD2E7 YXpg0LjcWw/YmUKAkJQXd88G4NxM6B8OvBKX/5zyzf2PvSHiPJn6HD4xZWIHboqB 7H3KDLtKJkoUzPlMOI4pWc5ZevdSSl2TuUgzZ3P4NzCe4K1tpZPdsB9mzUbPT7DF kHB6EpizqMJn4b18lGdjywXaqNdBDNg/zqpUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=PGLbU4pA7weAjzprU9e486/uJy7DUmRu VvRKvX6RUUbTdlI0TdwVpcayg8sYLBdV/bvtKoCSIZM44a+kIckoOa/pagMQkl1y EuOcfyF3NhwTt6Z02NokM7/PyAKOc5/speLoS4rzQ8GouwgBUD0YMmXUO4FUr5dE A4LQ1VFJtPM= Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix. (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13210C5DB6; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:37:04 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from unquote.localdomain (unknown [81.38.186.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5FE8BC5DB5; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:37:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <8739vijod6.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:15:33 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 021BF646-936D-11DF-A3C6-9056EE7EF46B-02397024!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127587 Archived-At: On Sat 17 Jul 2010 14:15, Juri Linkov writes: >> I used Vim for five years and then switched to Emacs >> for its great extensions and extensibility. > > BTW, there is a famous Latin proverb "NON VI SED ARTE" > that translates as "Not with force but with skill" > or "Not by strength but by guile". Your enthusiasm for Guile in Emacs is heartening, but we are still some 18 months from a viable branch. :) -- http://wingolog.org/