From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:27:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87sjcayo2g.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <44228733-B2A1-4C55-B3E4-D634A149AFB4@mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344022056 6506 80.91.229.3 (3 Aug 2012 19:27:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 19:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: yandros@mit.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 03 21:27:36 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SxNX4-0000FU-Ga for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:27:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53211 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxNX3-0001pG-OZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:27:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxNX1-0001oz-3G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:27:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxNWz-0003n4-Vq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.bahnhof.se ([213.80.101.11]:55745) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxNWz-0003mu-P2; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (mf.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.20]) by mx1-reinject (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC22295605; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 21:27:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at bahnhof.se (MF2) Original-Received: from mf2.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf2.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ktFAeF-tym3L; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 21:27:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from exodia.verona.se (h-235-102.a149.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.235.102]) by mf2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC46450085; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 21:27:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from chopper.vpn.verona.se (DIR-655.verona.se [192.168.200.86]) by exodia.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3904E0031; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 21:27:14 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:38:41 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-Received-From: 213.80.101.11 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152151 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I'm not sure why you say that there are no free systems available for > phones. In my particular case I use the GTA04 which has mostly open > hardware. > > It comes fairly close, but it has peripherals (more than one) that > require nonfree "blobs". You don't need to use those peripherals. I find the device quite functional without them. To make the device even more useful, the device would benefit from the success of this high priority GNU project: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/new-high-priority-project-powervr-drivers/ I verified this information with the project, and can provide full details if deemed interesting. This is no worse than most of my other machines. I try to do my best buying hardware that work with free software, and avoid using the hardware parts requiring non-free blobs. > > Anyway, so the phone I use is basically a small GNU/Linux system with a > 3G modem. > > I don't know how the main processor communicates with the 3G modem. > If it is by memory sharing, the firmware in the modem can take control > of the entire system. In the case of the GTA04 the modem is a completely separate system that communicates with the main processor with a serial USB connection. There is no memory sharing. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St > Boston MA 02110 > USA > www.fsf.org www.gnu.org > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call -- Joakim Verona