From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:27:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87y5d9p5td.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> <87vc8dtbcb.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871ub1gmdf.fsf@engster.org> <87d2ulovd0.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> <85r4j0h1ww.fsf@member.fsf.org> <85li98h1qx.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87ehf0b3x2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87obe3gaem.fsf@engster.org> <87d2uibsh1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r4iyecml.fsf@engster.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364592502 27338 80.91.229.3 (29 Mar 2013 21:28:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Leake , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 29 22:28:49 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgqu-0002FG-2A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:28:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40476 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgqV-0002aP-PL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:28:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50026) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgqP-0002aK-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:28:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgqM-0003R1-1L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:28:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mx2.bahnhof.se ([213.80.101.12]:52205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgqL-0003QG-Qz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:28:13 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (mf.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.20]) by mx2-reinject (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A23D524D; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:28:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at bahnhof.se (MF1) Original-Received: from mf1.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf1.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cl+C3qw42YiF; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:28:10 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mta.verona.se (h-235-102.a149.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.235.102]) by mf1.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA502AEA875; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:28:09 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mta.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15104E2A99; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:27:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at verona Original-Received: from mta.verona.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (exodia.verona.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pKwBzWjnxaOd; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:27:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from chopper.vpn.verona.se (unknown [192.168.201.18]) by mta.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18D04E0A86; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:27:54 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87r4iyecml.fsf@engster.org> (David Engster's message of "Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:14:42 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Mac OS X 10.x X-Received-From: 213.80.101.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158449 Archived-At: David Engster writes: > Stephen J. Turnbull writes: >> David Engster writes: >> >> > Emacs->CEDET: Now that's tedious. You have to first generate a list of >> > commits in Emacs trunk which changed files from CEDET. Then you try to >> > cherry-pick those commits into the 'from-emacs' branch. >> >> Have you tried Robert Collins' looms? It seems to me that they would >> help with this (but last time I checked they require a different >> branch format). > > It looks interesting, but I haven't tried it, because as you say, it > converts your branches so that you can only use them with the loom > plugin afterwards. Also, development on the loom plugin seems to have > stalled, to no surprise of anyone. I tried looms for a while. While fine on paper, there were many practical issues, so I stopped. Just a datapoint. > I'm already worried enough that the CEDET repository seems to be locked > inside bzr with no available conversion, so I'm not eager to further > complicate things. I'm really hoping that with Richard weighing in, > things will improve again. I think our time is better spend then > switching yet again to another VCS. > > -David > -- Joakim Verona