From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: The xwidget branch origin story Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 22:16:12 +0100 Message-ID: References: <868u5n6lsi.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448572611 2302 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2015 21:16:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: Andy Moreton Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 26 22:16:38 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a23u7-0006hP-Fc for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 22:16:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53184 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a23uA-000482-15 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:16:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a23u7-00047m-H7 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:16:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a23u2-0004DF-Hg for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:16:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.bahnhof.se ([213.80.101.12]:47333) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a23u2-0004D9-As for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:16:30 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (mf.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.20]) by mx2-reinject (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6954510B; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 22:16:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at bahnhof.se (MF1) Original-Received: from mf1.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf1.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P-3BXTPgVxSx; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 22:16:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mta.verona.se (h-235-62.a149.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.235.62]) by mf1.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578B0330AF5; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 22:16:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mta.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05904E4BF6; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:16:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at verona.se Original-Received: from mta.verona.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (exodia.verona.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vjvKAT6fnHo4; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 22:16:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from exodia.verona.se (www.verona.se [192.168.200.15]) by mta.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D104A4E34B1; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 22:16:12 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Tue, 24 Nov 2015 15:21:21 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 213.80.101.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.tangents:33 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> Andy Moreton writes: > >> Emacs already has lisp/widget.el and lisp/wid-edit.el with a set of widget-* >> functions used by customize. > >> Any name using widget will lead to confusion - please try to find a name >> that does not clash with an existing feature. > > Andy makes an excellent point: "widgets" (without clarification) have a > precise meaning, so "Emacs widgets" vs. "emacs-widgets" would cause a great > deal of confusion. > > We need another name for these interactive objects that can be inserted into a > buffer, whose functionality is not implemented by Emacs itself. Sort of > like... hosted components, gadgets? To demonstrate my lack of naming skills: - ele : emacs linking and embedding. But thats a bit short for a unique prefix - elec : emacs linking and embedding controls - eniac : emacs native interactive advanced controls I guess I'll stop now. But I think I need to do a rename soon, and it would be some work to get it right, so I would like to have some consensus on a name before I do it. > > John > -- Joakim Verona