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From: Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel Janík)
Cc: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@glug.org>, storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm),
	rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Enhancements to options menu (was Re: Reveal mode)
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 17:38:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3it60t1c7.fsf@Janik.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200205052315.g45NFFE29713@rum.cs.yale.edu> ("Stefan Monnier"'s message of "Sun, 05 May 2002 19:15:15 -0400")

   From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu>
   Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 19:15:15 -0400

Hi Stefan,

   > >    > i imagine arrows dancing around the screen, some question like "these
   > >    > are fringes -- do you belong to the minimalist school of thought; i.e.,
   > > 
   > > I think that we miss a chapter with this in the manual...
   > 
   > If you're talking about the dancing arrows, I might agree, although
   > I'd point out that we also miss the corresponding implementation.

;-) No, I was not talking about dancing arrows. I often found that many
people find the Emacs terminology confusing. They do read (emacs)Glossary,
(emacs)Screen but they would like to see pictures. One picture is more then
ten pages of text. I have spent one "lesson" with my users to describe them
the difference between mode-line and echo area and window/buffer, you know.

   > As for the fringes, I would rather not advertise the ability to
   > remove them (to new users).

Well, but this was the most asked question just after releasing 21.1... So
users (and even novice users) wanted to remove it.
-- 
Pavel Janík

We are Linux.
Resistance indicates that you're missing the point!
                  -- "Carsten Otte" <COTTE@de.ibm.com> in LKML

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-07 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-30 21:19 Reveal mode Richard Stallman
2002-05-01 20:30 ` Pavel Janík
2002-05-01 23:34   ` Enhancements to options menu (was Re: Reveal mode) Kim F. Storm
2002-05-02  5:16     ` Enhancements to options menu Karl Eichwalder
2002-05-02 11:39       ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-05-02 20:20       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-02 23:48         ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-05-03 18:25     ` Enhancements to options menu (was Re: Reveal mode) Richard Stallman
2002-05-03 23:54       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-04  0:39         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-04  8:58           ` Pavel Janík
2002-05-05 23:15             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-07 15:38               ` Pavel Janík [this message]
2002-05-07 16:33                 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-05-07 18:24                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-07 19:11                     ` Simon Josefsson
2002-05-08  0:27                       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  2:51                         ` Colin Walters
2002-05-08  3:06                           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-08 16:10                           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  4:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-08 11:24                         ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-05-08 13:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-08 13:43                         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-08 13:57                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-08 14:05                             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-08 14:15                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-08 15:28                                 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-05-08 15:43                                   ` Alan Shutko
2002-05-12  5:26                                     ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-05-12  5:35                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-08 15:46                                   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08 16:31                                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-05-08 18:51                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-08 15:27                           ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-05-08 16:30                             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-09 14:59                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-09 16:53                               ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-05-09 17:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-09 18:26                                   ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-05-09 18:59                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-08 14:02                       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-08 15:31                         ` Simon Josefsson
2002-05-08 15:55                           ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-07 23:59                 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-08  6:03                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-08 13:37                     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-08 13:59                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-04  9:32         ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-04 15:01         ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-04 18:44           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-05 17:45             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-05 22:24               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-06  4:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-06  6:30                   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-06  9:17                     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-06 19:32                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06 19:32                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06 23:12                   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-07 20:07                     ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-07 18:30 Karl Berry
2002-05-07 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-08 17:11 Karl Berry
2002-05-08 17:19 ` Alan Shutko
2002-05-08 17:27 Karl Berry
2002-05-08 17:40 ` Miles Bader

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