Hi Lars, Sorry to bother you again, but I get an error when starting Gnus: "cannot open load-file: poe" I presume this refers to poe.el from apel. Therefore I have two questions: 1. Why do today's sources (require 'poe)? 2. Why isn't APEL part of Emacs if Gnus is part of emacs? Thanks, Joel -- Joel J. Adamson FSF Member #8164 http://www.unc.edu/~adamsonj