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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142695 Archived-At: joakim@verona.se writes: > - Gnus usualy hangs for me with a flaky network but its much worse > recently with the gnutls stuff. Sometimes I get a message like: > > "gnutls.c [0] (Emacs) fatal error: The specified reason has been > invalidated for some reason." I haven't seen that message, but my network connections aren't flaky... > - I run Emacs in gdb all the time but it doesn't really help > recently. Emacs hangs so hard gdb can't interrupt. Sometimes I can > at least get a backtrace by sending a SIGHUP signal. Usualy the hang > is in accept_process_output initiated from Gnus. Does strace say what it's doing? > - bzr currently hangs, at the savannah end(Okay, I just like to whine > a bit) While we're whining -- there are still no bzr diff messages being generated, which is awkward. Oh, and I'm chasing down a heisenbug, too -- sometimes (about one in fifty times), Emacs crashes while displaying animated GIFs. This started about a week or so ago. I still haven't been able to catch the bug happening while running under gdb. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/