From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Plaksin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs 21 and M-x term Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 20:17:07 -0400 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1063071571 13822 80.91.224.253 (9 Sep 2003 01:39:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 01:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 09 03:39:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19wXTd-00029n-00 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 03:39:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19wXTV-00012D-Df for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 21:39:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19wWCI-0002sO-UV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 20:17:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19wWCC-0002mD-VL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 20:17:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [198.72.70.185] (helo=iris.bor.usg.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19wWC3-0002XD-Ok for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 20:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from grapes.rath.peachnet.edu (grapes.rath.peachnet.edu [198.72.70.68]) by iris.bor.usg.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h890H8v05407; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from water.rath.peachnet.edu (water.rath.peachnet.edu [168.24.245.33]) by grapes.rath.peachnet.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h890H7L17454; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Lute Kamstra In-Reply-To: (Lute Kamstra's message of "Thu, 04 Sep 2003 18:39:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-USG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12368 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:12368 Lute Kamstra writes: >> My main problem seems to have been using Debian unstable. With >> Debian woody and CVS Emacs, it's much better. Almost all of the >> rest of my problems went away when I compiled eterm.ti on all of the >> hosts and set TERM to eterm. > > So, which problems remain? After more testing, it turns out that it isn't stable vs. unstable. Instead it is courier fonts vs. fixed fonts. With Emacs 20 I can use either one; with CVS Emacs courier causes problems. Specifically, with CVS Emacs emacs -q M-x term ls with a fixed font works as expected but with a courier font the columns don't line up correctly. The two fonts I am using are: -adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-20-*-100-100-*-*-*-* -*-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-100-100-*-120-iso8859-1 I don't care whether I use fixed or courier so I switched to fixed for CVS Emacs. Now that I can use CVS Emacs for everyday work, I will compile a list of the remaining problems and do what I can to help with debugging. One problem so far: ssh to an HP-UX 11.00 system, set TERM to eterm, and run vi. C-d does *almost* what you'd expect but the bottom half of the screen is off by one line. When I hit C-l the bottom half of the lines move up one line. Thanks for your help :)